$ 0.25 45-max, is there a call on the river?

[vokrugdookola]

$ 0.25 45-max Hold'em No Limit - 15/30 (4 ante) - 8 players
yakinioch (UTG): 201 (7 bb)
de4glenob (UTG+1): 1,609 (54 bb)
8888fart8888 (MP): 2,511 (84 bb)
-=danil323=- (MP+1): 1,156 (39 bb)
Hero (CO): 3,639 (121 bb)
Dexstar555 (BU): 1,080 (36 bb)
Volantis5 (SB): 3,022 (101 bb)
5h4rk22 (BB): 1,719 (57 bb)

Pre-Flop: (77) Hero is CO with J♠ Q♠
yakinioch (UTG) calls 30, 3 players fold, Hero (CO) raises to 120, 1 fold, Volantis5 (SB) calls 105, 1 fold, yakinioch (UTG) calls 90

Flop: (422) 3♦ 2♣ A♣ (3 players)
Volantis5 (SB) bets 30, yakinioch (UTG) calls 30, Hero(CO) calls 30

Turn: (512) A♠ (3 players)
Volantis5 (SB) checks, yakinioch (UTG) checks, Hero (CO) checks

River: (512) 3♥ (3 players)
Volantis5 (SB) bets 180, yakinioch (UTG) folds, Hero ???


Standard fish 38/1/0 (30), AF 1.4, 84 arms

A big raise preflop because against us fish 90/15, my hand is well against his range. I flop the odds on the flop. There is nothing to bluff on the turn. On the river, you don’t really believe in Ace, it’s not a bad situation to call

 

[puzzlefish]

Your logic makes sense but I think you're up against at least a pair here and you're either turning your hand into a bluff with a raise (if you think a fish would fold .. it probably won't) or folding. Calling will disappoint you more often than not.

 

[vokrugdookola]

Your logic makes sense but I think you're up against at least a pair here and you're either turning your hand into a bluff with a raise (if you think a fish would fold .. it probably won't) or folding. Calling will disappoint you more often than not.

how then to play against fish, you need to have nuts?

 

[TheDude6622]

Your logic makes sense but I think you're up against at least a pair here and you're either turning your hand into a bluff with a raise (if you think a fish would fold .. it probably won't) or folding. Calling will disappoint you more often than not.

Completely agree here. Especially in the micro-stakes, we are losing to at least 2-pair. It's a fold.

 

[puzzlefish]

how then to play against fish, you need to have nuts?

If you want the conventional advice, look into blackrain79's guides. His guides are pretty good. Essentially though, you want to extract as much value as possible when you have a strong hand and don't feel bad to fold the ones that end up not getting anywhere. When you start to try bluffing microstakes fish, you can expect -EV outcomes.

 

[Collin Moshman]

I like the play up until the river including the flop float given how small his sizing is. Against a passive player, I'd usually just give up at the river but it's close since you're getting almost 3:1 odds and beat a busted draw. Definitely not a big mistake to call and make him show

 

[fundiver199]

I fold here. You are not even beating some of his bluffs like KX of clubs. As for his value I can certainly see a fish play a 3 or some pocket pair this way. A 3 is a mandatory value bet on the river, since nobody ever has an ace, when it essentially gets checked through on two streets. And even a pocket pair can reasonably assume, its good, and bet for thin value against K high or a worse pocket pair.