$ 1000 NLHE Full Ring (5/10): Decision on the river

[gustav197poker]

Cash game in casino.
Blinds of 5/10.
Table with 10 players.

All of the following values ​​are rounded:
SB: No information.
BB: No information.
UTG1 (HERO): $ 1900. Receive: Ac-Qd
UTG2: No information.
MP1 (VILLAIN 1): $ 1100. Tight-loose player. Opens with semi closed range from EP. Since LP plays with very wide ranges. I've seen him show: K-2o; J-To; Q-7o from last positions.
MP2: No information.
MP3: No information.
HJ (VILLAIN 2): $ 1500. Super aggressive player. I buy chips 3 times on the same night. Open game with any hand, it is totally unpredictable. He makes big bets when he gets in one hand. He likes to place bets between 100% - 200% the size of the pot.
CO: $ 3500. The leader in table chips. Very tight player who releases a little from LP. Since LP he has played Q-Js; 5-5. Since EP he has played K-K; A-Js
BTN: No information.


5/10 blinds


PREFLOP:

UTG1 (HERO) with Ac-Qd opens at $ 25. UTG2: Fold. MP1 (VILLAIN 1): CALL. MP2 AND MP3: FOLD. HJ (VILLAIN 2): Go up to $ 70. CO: CALL. BTN: FOLD.
HERO AND MP1: CALL.


Jackpot: $ 295 (4 players)
FLOP: 2s - Ts - Qc


UTG1 (HERO) bets $ 120 (approximately 40% of the pot)
MP1 (V1): CALL, HJ (V2): CALL, CO: CALL.


Jackpot: $ 775 (4 players)
TURN: 2s- Ts- Qc 9d

UTG1 (HERO): CHECK.
MP1 (V1): $ 250 bet. (Approximately 30% the well)
HJ (V2): CALL.
CO: CALL.
UTG1 (HERO): CALL.
MP1 (V1): CALL.


Jackpot: $ 1775 (4 players)
RIVER: 2s-Ts-Qc-9d Qs

UTG1 (HERO): Bet $ 690 (Approximately 40% of the pot)
MP1 (V1): CALL.
HJ (V2): ALL IN $ 1180
CO: FOLD.

In total 3 players in the hand, the jackpot is approximately $ 3645.
What would you do in this situation being HERO?

Thanks for your response, regards.

 

[Edu1]

HJ (V2), he can have flush with spades, straight with KJ, but you think he is super agressive player, unpredictable, he may be bluffing, but your hand is not the best possible, fold a tree of a kind is hard, but is the game, HERO fold

 

[Sidetracked]

Just a very nasty spot. I would not have donked the flop into the pf 3 bettor. With the size of the pot, and the fact that you only have to call another $490, you need to think about his # of bluff combos and his # of value combos. Also, with your donk on the flop, having a Queen becomes very likely for you, and he knows that, and when another Queen comes on the river, it's almost like he hopes you do now have trips.

 

[pentazepam]

Just a very nasty spot. I would not have donked the flop into the pf 3 bettor. With the size of the pot, and the fact that you only have to call another $490, you need to think about his # of bluff combos and his # of value combos. Also, with your donk on the flop, having a Queen becomes very likely for you, and he knows that, and when another Queen comes on the river, it's almost like he hopes you do now have trips.

Yes. Add to that: hero can almost never bet (donk) for value here. He turns a pretty good check call hand to a bluff. The hand looks better than it is on this board. The relative strength is pretty low with 3 streets of betting multi-way.

 

[XXPXXP]

ask a question

V2's river bluff frequency?
if V2's river bluff frequency is very high, bet call. if not bet fold.

BTW: Unlike others, I like to do , river bet call or bet fold line.
when check this river, you will against all in anyway , I think
since V2 is super aggressive.
because, V2 is very loose, he could call you with weak trips, or other 2nd pair , over pair - eg KK.

here I could think V2's bluffing range have at least 88, and KK.

any other tells to share?

 

[Gohaku94]

Open bigger preflop in live games (bigger than that in online also). Don't donk the flop.. ever. Fold the turn vs 3 people.. it's just bad.. as played you put so much money in just call and pray that everyone else is too drunk to realise they have nothing..

 

[teh_colonel_saigon]

As played, I think you have to call river... 500 to win 3500+ is better than 7 to 1. Sometimes he has a flush/house, sometimes he has a Q with worse kicker. You can run the numbers but it probably pans out to a call.

Man, live poker is crazy!

 

[hackmeplz]

Seems weak but preflop fold to the 3-bet. If he's actually 3-betting closer to 100% you should actually 4-bet but almost always live the people you think are maniacs aren't as crazy as you think they are. Either way playing a pot 4-way oop with AQo isn't great as this hand shows. Even the times you flop TP and river trips you're in a bad spot. And if he's actually very aggressive postflop as well are you going to be calling down many runouts with A high?

Flop I'm gonna say I actually think is a fine lead but you should probably bet bigger. Rarely are these types of players going to be cbetting air in a 4-way pot, you often have the best hand, and you want money into the pot.

Turn is close I think bet or check is fine, and although it's not a great spot I don't see how you can fold with that small a bet and TP.

River your lead is absolutely terrible, there's literally no justification for it. On that board you're going to be beat very often and when you're not it's not like you're getting called. When raised I know it's a good price but no one at a live 5/10 game is bluff shoving in that position. Like it's literally 0% bluff. Maybe 0.01% he misread his hand and shoved what he thought was a flush but that's the only time you ever win here.

 

[TheDude6622]

The open ended straight and the flush gets there. A boat could be a possibility as well. That being said, you have trip Q with the best kicker. You bet the river and someone shoves for basically double your river bet. You put yourself in a position where you have to call.