Optimal HUD stats

stillgotouts said:

This^
But I have my own questions:
Is it possible to be a good online player without a HUD? My computer won't run one right now. My bankroll isn't big enough to buy one out of. Thanks!

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stillgotouts said:

This^
But I have my own questions:
Is it possible to be a good online player without a HUD? My computer won't run one right now. My bankroll isn't big enough to buy one out of. Thanks!

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Acesinthebig said:

It helps you find leaks in your game. Also if you're multi table and not paying attention it is helpful to have the stats when it is time to play a certain player. It can help guide you in adjusting your play vs certain players.

You don't need one to be a winning player.

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LarsLucidor said:

I guess it comes down to more of the range you play than a percentage to aim for. They will vary throughout the tournament as well. I'd recommend to have your range and game plan ready beforehand and if it's a good range and plan you will end up within what's considered good stats.

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nunch92 said:

When playing in a 9 handed MTT, what HUD stats are ideal to aim for? I recently played in the $100 Cardschat freeroll using a HUD for the first time, and I was surprised by the statistics! I thought I was playing much tighter, but my VPIP was about 40. I finished 9th in the tournament, but I got lucky multiple times. Would anybody recommend certain targets for different statistics that will improve my game?

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nunch92 said:

Thanks for the advice! I used this today to tighten up my range and preflop raise %. Didn't play too well, but maybe it was just a bad day..

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popluck777 said:

When playing in a MTT 9 handed, what stats are ideal for aim? . Would anybody recommend certain targets for different statistics that will improve my game?

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LarsLucidor said:

Better luck next time! It takes practice to be comfortable with a game plan. Slowly but surely you'll get there.

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popluck777 said:

Good evening, I downloaded hund2not and I'm not sure how to configure it, can anyone help me? and does hand2not show the statistics in real time?

When playing in a MTT 9 handed, what stats are ideal for aim? . Would anybody recommend certain targets for different statistics that will improve my game?

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nunch92 said:

What exactly do you mean by game plan? Like starting to play tighter at a certain stage? or goals for each level? I feel like I am just playing each hand as it goes and don't really have a preset plan. Thanks!

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JBGoode said:

I would suggest not worrying about the actual stats themselves, but focus on playing unexsploitable ranges based off possition.... after about a month of so of consistent play to a very strict range, then evaluate your HUD stats....

Are thier "optimal HUD stats"? In general yes.... but they also very.... for instance a player that is 12/7 are gonna be super tight, as long as they are agressive post flop chances are your not wanting to play this type of player OOP much....

While a player around 23/20 are also very good, and probably very balanced....

While you can also have players as high as 34/27 who like to see a lot of flops, and typically play postflop very well.... but wont show down much cause they dont want others to pin point thier actual reange....

What do all these have in common? They are always open raising, never limpping, and they are rarely calling OOP. Yea 3Bets can very based off player type... with a tight player calling a lot more OOP, and 3Betting IP with a 3bet around 5-7.... the problem with this player is, if you 3Bet them, be prepare to either 5Bet or call a 4Bet. If you dont plan to do that, flat when IP.....

The other 2 can have 3Bet stats anywhere between 5-15.... it really just depends.... in general though, (as long as your a respected player) the higher the 3Bet is along with the VPIP/PFR are, the more likely they are to fold to 4Bets.... so basicly we tighten up againts these players, and 3Bet/4Bet them alot! But widen your flatting range on the BTN, and just let then spew off when you have top pair or higher....

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nunch92 said:

Thanks so much for the response! I have been wondering about if the actual VPIP and and PFR matter more, or if the ratio between the two matters more.. Based on your answer, it seems that as long as your VPIP and PFR are fairly close, you can be a decent player. As for the 4bet and 5bet, I am mostly playing in freeroll tournaments where the blinds raise fairly quick so there are not many deep stacked players. Typically if someone is three betting, the 4-bet is a shove, and a lot of times even the 3 bet is a shove. Also, what # of hands do you prefer to have on a player before you start acknowledging the HUD stats? Is 25-50 sufficient?

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JBGoode said:

It really depends, if your playing freerolls it's pretty obvious right out of the gate for the most part. People limp with almost anything, will only raise with pairs or suited paint.... these players you want to be agressive, but if they bet into you and you have anything less then middle pair no draw. Just let it go.... against these players I found a customer stat on PT4 that will give you a limp % outside of SB for MTTs. And I add calling PF raise % along with AF (Agression factor). Higher the limp, and lower the call the more you should be raising them in positions, and lower the AF the more you should be respecting thier bets post flop.... typically a freeroll player will be something like 45/2 that's why we add calling and limping % so that 45/2 will have a 37 calling /43 open limp.... so this player not only limps, but calls over half the time when he is raised.... so we just flat this player a lot in position....

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