Poker Orifice
FoolsTilt
Platinum Level
naydanazar
Rock Star
Silver Level
TheRealPage
Rock Star
Silver Level
georgi krastev
Legendary Donk-Fish
Loyaler
60bb's in early levels of a game that has a flat payout structure (akin to a satellite)
Just curious... is this a call you'd make if you are villain here?
Why you go all-in pre-flop with A♠ K♠ - at this early stage of the tournament ?
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kozong
Legend
Bronze Level
with AQs on my hand, they probably had KK at best, i might still catch some ace on one of those streets & its suited, so.. flush draw.
its early too, so double up can really helps w/ floating, bluffing, or just bluff catching stuff later on
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its early too, so double up can really helps w/ floating, bluffing, or just bluff catching stuff later on
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RiverLord90
Rock Star
Silver Level
I agree with above post, I wouldn't fold AQs neither especially in a freeroll. I also wouldn't shove AKs this early on. I would raise 3x the initial bet and with that flop, make a strong cbet.
Maybe that would have made him fold or maybe he would called down to the river anyways. Who knows with these freerolls.
Maybe that would have made him fold or maybe he would called down to the river anyways. Who knows with these freerolls.
SouthparkSith
Visionary
Silver Level
I need to have a drink with you at some point Mr. Puzzlefish too funny!
Erpherk
Rock Star
Silver Level
Blinds are so small and you shove 3k to pick up a few 100 chips. It looks like you wanted a quick gamble and someone was willing to gamble as well. You know that shove was silly, You have to play the whole tourney to win ya know!. Anyhoo GL on the next 1.
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63burner
Visionary
Bronze Level
Yes. shove, with caveats..
AK suited is tempting, especially early in tourney, I'd shove; the example noted turned into a true coin-flip, sometimes the wrong suit; these things happen. At least you were truly 50-50.
AK suited is tempting, especially early in tourney, I'd shove; the example noted turned into a true coin-flip, sometimes the wrong suit; these things happen. At least you were truly 50-50.
Misaki
Visionary
Silver Level
AKs is just a 3bet/call. No shove. Why call to 4bet allin? Because even if it's early stage people are able to make bad plays and push hands like worse Ax, Kx etc. You are in a good shape versus entire range of bad player on late positions.
about AQs it's a 3bet/fold pre in that situation. Calling allin there is just a bad play. Even if people are pushing a lot wider what I mentioned above I think in early stage you should just call QQ+, AK. I wouldn't go wider if I know I have edge on whole field and I can collect decent amount of chips later.
Anyway this topic is senseless. In poker you should be focused on yourself and trying to make best decisions as you can based on your knowledge. If they played bad you should be happy, because in long run you will earn money, not them.
about AQs it's a 3bet/fold pre in that situation. Calling allin there is just a bad play. Even if people are pushing a lot wider what I mentioned above I think in early stage you should just call QQ+, AK. I wouldn't go wider if I know I have edge on whole field and I can collect decent amount of chips later.
Anyway this topic is senseless. In poker you should be focused on yourself and trying to make best decisions as you can based on your knowledge. If they played bad you should be happy, because in long run you will earn money, not them.
Poker Orifice
FoolsTilt
Platinum Level
because I know villain is a drunk and will call off with much worse. Villain has shown a tendency to make poorly calculated 'spite' calls in the past. Pretty sure that's reason enough
Of course! And I am (& was) happy. Why have you assumed otherwise?
The question was, "Who makes this call here?" (very few answered the question). Perhaps I should've added in some more info. in my initial post.
Seems you have the information wrong from the HH. Why is that not surprising?
It's a freeroll,,i'm not folding AQs here,ever.
Well thought out - - fantastic response! (it does answer a question I often have in these games... "What are they thinking? .... Are they thinking?")
I'm of the school of thought where when I'm playing a game for whatever stake it might be, I'm looking to make optimal play. Sometimes that's as easy as making a simple equity calculation and then hitting fold vs. call (or vice versa). I didn't realize others were using different criteria (well aside form the 'patterns' believers and the 'had a feeling' types).
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orchidra
Allan with two Owls
Loyaler
It's a freeroll,,i'm not folding AQs here,ever.
Did you go on to win the game Terry?
georgi krastev
Legendary Donk-Fish
Loyaler
puzzlefish
student of the donk arts
Loyaler
So your comeback is to call your two screenshots HH? And then to make excuses for your poor play? You generalized your villain as a drunk that would make spite calls and then you lost by putting your entire tourney on the line for a flip in the early stages. If you're such a successful player, why are you crying about someone overplaying AQ in a freeroll?because I know villain is a drunk and will call off with much worse. Villain has shown a tendency to make poorly calculated 'spite' calls in the past. Pretty sure that's reason enough
Of course! And I am (& was) happy. Why have you assumed otherwise?
The question was, "Who makes this call here?" (very few answered the question). Perhaps I should've added in some more info. in my initial post.
Seems you have the information wrong from the HH. Why is that not surprising?
Well thought out - - fantastic response! (it does answer a question I often have in these games... "What are they thinking? .... Are they thinking?")
I'm of the school of thought where when I'm playing a game for whatever stake it might be, I'm looking to make optimal play. Sometimes that's as easy as making a simple equity calculation and then hitting fold vs. call (or vice versa). I didn't realize others were using different criteria (well aside form the 'patterns' believers and the 'had a feeling' types).
Bozovicdj
Legend
Silver Level
I had a good laugh reading through all the comments!
especially liked this bit as it reminded me of some I read earlier:
In all honesty, I can see a call from AQs here realistically.
I mean, when BU just flat calls a bet pre with AQs, which is a very strong hand, it is so under-repped that it can easily induce squeeze bets from SB/BB positions with worse holdings. I could see myself squeezing with AJs from the blinds, A5s, pocket pairs, even smaller ones - therefore I would definitely flat BU then re-shove or call a shove from SB/BB squeeze bets! This is the reason why some decide to just flat call with AA from late positions - to induce squeeze bets
I am not saying that this much thought was put into all the decisions made in this hand, but it is a reasonable play if you actually think about it...
especially liked this bit as it reminded me of some I read earlier:
In all honesty, I can see a call from AQs here realistically.
I mean, when BU just flat calls a bet pre with AQs, which is a very strong hand, it is so under-repped that it can easily induce squeeze bets from SB/BB positions with worse holdings. I could see myself squeezing with AJs from the blinds, A5s, pocket pairs, even smaller ones - therefore I would definitely flat BU then re-shove or call a shove from SB/BB squeeze bets! This is the reason why some decide to just flat call with AA from late positions - to induce squeeze bets
I am not saying that this much thought was put into all the decisions made in this hand, but it is a reasonable play if you actually think about it...
