Demagog it's funny that when I was reading adamovie's post, the first thing I thought of was just what you said. adamovie I also believe in playing the game just like bullies, and or maniacs do at my table. A good player will get respect at the tables by firing right back at them, and by setting traps for them. Like when you are in a good position with a very good hand. Now this is just my opinion and some may disagree. But if you are last to act, pre-flop or post- flop you can just call, 3bet, or move all in against those type players that make big bets in any position. For me, I like to just call, because more than likely he will do the same the next round. And that is what you want, and that's when you move all in, and most of the time he will back down and the pot is yours. Guys I'm done. This is a shitty post. I don't seem to have any kind of point, GL adamovie