Multi Table SNGs not considered a SNG?

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I've been trying to find a tournament book to get. I mostly play SNGs, because I don't have time to sit for hours upon hours on end through a tournament since I work 6 days a week.

However, every SNG book I find is focused on single table SNGs. Which would be fine, if that's all I played.. but it isn't. I rarely play the single table ones.. and focus more on the Multi's

So should I just get a book on regular tournaments? If so, which one? Or ones.. I'll eventually get HOH.. but I'm looking for a single book right now.

Is AG around? :D Anyone else have any suggestions?
 
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A SNG is defined as a tourney that starts when all seats are filled, regardless of how long/short that time is. If it's 9 man or 360 man it's still a SNG.
 
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For multitables S'n'G you will use same strategy as in a multitable tournament (mtt), so us that type of book. Just remember you starting stacks may be a bit lower. But again some online MMT's also starts with 1500 or even 1000 in stack.
 
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I can only recommend HOH even tho it consists of 3 books, they are written in a relaxed and easy to read style, and while working through the 3rd, you could try what I did, and re-read the first two, tho I recommend re-doing the workbook as well. I will also re read all AGAIN, as the second time so much was clearer than the first time through. I do this with most poker books I read, if they turn me on the first time, I know there will be better understanding on my part the second.

But thats just how it works best for me. You could also post any cool books you run across as I am always looking to improve my library. I also recommend The Theory of Poker by Sklanski, although it is a general book, and not MTT only.

Oh yea, and what spunka said. MTT theory is correct as they essentially are MTTs. The difference is mainly academic (although stacks, blinds and blind times can vary), as MTTs have a deadline starting time, and a large SnG has a player capacity that determines the starting time..
 
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You could take a look at nick raineys website, but it's 60/month, And im not sure how many vids etc they will post. But that site deals specifically with MT sng's. Got one of the best 45 man sng grinders 'bodeye2' Nick is also a very good MT SNG player (puts in some crazy volume, like playing 200 180 mans in one day!)

Also, It's a good idea to learn some decent shoving/calling ranges for late stage play, especially in turbo formats.
 
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it depends on exactly what sort of game you're playing. if you're playing 18-man turbos then something like Moshman's SNG book would be ideal because clearly what you're playing is close to a turbo STT and as such general SNG strategy applies. if you're playing 180-man regular SNGs where the blinds are only marginally faster than an MTT then get HoH because you're basically playing MTTs.

really though, if you get a good book like the ones mentioned there will be a lot of useful information in them regardless. many aspects of SNG theory and strategy apply to MTTs and vice versa, and a good author will usually make this implicitly obvious and clear, as well as pointing out big differences if and when necessary. HoH is a great starting point whatever sort of tournaments you're playing.
 
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Firstly, there's a HUGE difference between whether we're referring to a Turbo Format (like the 45's on Stars, which are a shove/fold game from fairly early on).. OR something like a 45plyr SNG on Fulltilt.
Typical MTT guides/books won't be too relevant for the structure/format of the game.
Something to keep in mind, tables will become short-handed at a few stages of these games & it is crucial to keep your stack alive during these times, prior to getting back to 9handed play. Stealing & re-stealing is essential as blinds go up & you don't ever want to be open-raise/folding on a stack of <15bb's with a couple tables to go.
You don't necessarily need to accumulate in mid to later stages so much as keeping a stack that has fold equity when game comes to shove/fold mode.

There are some decent guides out there online (but am thinking it wouldn't be right to post about them on this forum.... we don't afterall promote other forums on here.... do we?). On that note, the Shaun Deeb playing the 180's is okay but getting a bit outdated. Hunt a bit further & you'll see a much more recent 180-man guide (actually posted within the past 30days).

The 45's on Fulltilt are actually populated by alot of MTT regs. who use the 45's as their 'bread & butter' game (as it can often be pretty lengthy between decent MTT cashes). I've been fortunate enough to find a group of guys who are successful regs. in these as I've considered adding them to my own schedule. There are some decent vids. out there for playing the 45's too. Just need to look around.

As far as books go.... wouldn't hurt to have a decent understanding of STT/SNG & then obviously add in for the differences in format with multi-tables (ie. short-handed play & blind size vs. stack sizes you can expect to see as game progresses.... ie. final table play typically has a stack or two sitting with 10-15bb, a couple around 10bb & the rest slightly below this amount. There's a bit of room for resteals as final table starts out but then for most they're in shove/fold mode.

OP.. which SNG/MTT's are you referring to? (90's?, 180's?, 45's?..or all of them?). GL in them. They can be quite profitable to play. You can also expect to easily go 10-in-a-row with no dough, but when you hit a nice score it'll carry you over for sure.
 
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Oh yah. As far as a book goes... Kill Everyone with Elky addition might be of help to you (idk.. I haven't read it yet but from what I've heard it'd probably be suitable for this). HOH... meh... not as much so imo at all.
 
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