what to do when everything is going backwards?

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QQ
AK
AQ
AJ
lost in all these hands almost one after the other.
folded 9 4 and missed full house
what to do?
continue playing my game or what?
what would you do?
 
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I would still continue but now I will just play on freerolls. I would like to observe this bad rush for a week with no money at stake.
 
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Review how you played the hands (or post them here), if you played them well but still lost then get over it, beats happen, it's part of the game.

As for folding 94 and missing the full house you shouldn't think like that, the fold was correct, 94 is junk and it doesn't flop a full house 99% of the time
 
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Try not to be results oriented in your thinking ,losing with premium hands sucks but is part of variance. Better to focus on making good decisions if you did that then variance will even out over a large sample size.......scorp
 
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First step is to change your thinking.

If your going to wonder if you should over a couple bad beats, then you really need to either quit playing or understand that they will happen, and happen alot!

And listen to what Scorpion and the other dude said about being results oriented. Just focus on playing the hand the best possible way. Eevntually the outcomes will fall in your favor more often than not
 
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read a good book about poker
like "the poker mindset" it will help u to improve
GL on and off the felts
 
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Take a mental health break. Go for a walk in nature, go to a good movie, read a good movie. Get your mind off poker and the bad beats for awhile. Then, you can return with a new energy... and the knowledge that you know what you are doing.. and this is just variance in the overall scheme of things. Best of luck ;)
 
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read a good book about poker
like "the poker mindset" it will help u to improve
GL on and off the felts

When i was reading the comments i was thinking to recommend this book. Agree 100%

About the hands, you have mentioned, dont be surprised if you lose with them, those are good hands, but not premium hands, except maybe QQ can be excluded from the crowd but it is more ore less somewhere in the middle...

There will times when you lose AA KK, there will be times when you fold preflop a hand that flops a monster, that still doesn't mean that you played it bad, good decision is a good decision no madder the results and will determine in a long run... As said in poker mindset in short term luck is the factor (or variance if you like that more) in long term skill is a factor...

I would suggest you to take a peek at starting hands in no limit holdem, and and also about position, big ace hands you mentioned plays best in position, that once again doesn't mean that you will win them all when you are in position, but in the long run you'll see the difference...
 
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The other day I lost with KK vs. some guy who called from BB. I raised UTG, only he called.

Flop comes T22, then 5 on the turn, and J on river. No flush or str possibility, so I bet all three streets (all in on river) and he checked/called three streets.

So when he flipped over Q2os my eyes widened. I really put this guy on a draw (2 hearts on the flop) or a T or maybe a PP like 99 or 88. Even TJ wouldn't beat me so I was all in on the river.

I checked PTR to see this guy's results. He's lost thousands playing 4NL. That's right, thousands.

Lesson? Even the worst poker player can beat anyone when cards fall his way, but eventually these mofos' luck run out. It is total BS to be the sucker who gets cleaned out by horrible players like this guy, but at the same time they are the ones making others winners.
 
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If everything goes wrong….I go to the store to buy a new mouse…..no superstition, but I have probably smashed another on the ground.

Poker is great, but loosing with >80% to win many times in a row is worse than going to the dentist….
 
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ow and yeah, what you are describing are a few hands….I am talking about thousands! Play many more and come back :)
 
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@babi, Thats online poker. Its normal. Seeing those unimaginable badbeats, unbelievable draws, superior starting hands losing to crap hands, folding a hand which might win that deal etc, is normal at online poker.

You continue and play many hands and you can see the whole picture about online poker, and its you yourself who can adust to the nature of online poker, soon.

Goodluck.
 
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Teach or train yourself to think like a poker player, not a child with a sense of self-entitlement. So you lost a few hands in a row when you had pretty good starting cards? This will happen over and over if you continue playing, so you had better figure out how to take it in stride, at least well enough so it doesn't affect your play.
 
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play freerolls

Play freerolls until the bad streak teaters out. You cant and won't win EVERYTIME, even if you play "textbook" poker. But over time you will win more than you lose!
 
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Variance happens, its inevitable. If you are playing the hands correctly, you can't let the fact that you lose a few scare you into free rolls. Stick to lower stakes until the slump passes. I like free rolls well enough, but unless its a forum game or something, its a throwaway for the first hour at least.
 
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Just had a guy with 93 call a three bet AND a four bet with 93. He hits a pair of 9s. I shove on the flop he calls.

The turn comes a 3 and I lost my stack.
This comes 8 hands after I lost with KK to JJ. He calls 3 bet pre from me and nails his J on the flop.

Can't do much about stuff like this.

Online poker is very streaky.

Tag these mofos and get them next time. No guarantee you'll beat them ever, but most of the time you will get them back.
 
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A while back, I ran into this swimming donkey in Carbon DoN's. The first incident was when I had AA UTG on the first hand, raised 3x, and this clown shoved 44 and flopped a set.

The next game, I wound up shoving trips into his flopped full house, made a better full house on the turn, then he hit a one-outer for quads.

Two games in a row, busted out to the same fish who played every hand like he was at play money tables, and I did go on tilt at that point and had to stop for a while.

I did get my money back from him eventually though, so it evened out in the end.
 
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Teach or train yourself to think like a poker player, not a child with a sense of self-entitlement. So you lost a few hands in a row when you had pretty good starting cards? This will happen over and over if you continue playing, so you had better figure out how to take it in stride, at least well enough so it doesn't affect your play.
I agree in the long run you will come out ahead.
also as stated walk away for a cppl of mins even if you gotta sit out
a clear head never hurts anyone except the frustrated
 
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overplaying AA, KK, QQ, AK is the best way to diminish your stack in just one hand, actually the best lesson i had in poker is to fold them at the right time and not to overplay them , that´s for sure, so don´t feel bad about losing with them because they are not uncrackeable, obviously the expectation is to win before the board is displayed but they are only a par, therefore think that big pots are for big hands, so yes it hurts when losing with them but take a deep breath and keep going and next time better luck!
 
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You probably got some bad luck there. We all have our sh**ty days, but dont make that much of a deal out of it. Dont stop playing just because the world was against you for a day :). I think the most important thing here, as the people mentioned above, about that book, I havent read it, but I think that you should. You need to improve your mindset about the game and try to remain calm while you are playing. When you go all in, even with aces, you will get beaten up sometimes, its not an immortal hand. Ive got beaten up with AA against AA who hits flush on the turn. What should I do? Destroy my house? Your mindset about the game is the most important thing, you need to overcome bad beats and such, you shouldnt let them affect your mood, or your game in the future. As for this missed full house, Ive missed like 5 or 6 Four of a kinds, by folding hands like 93o, but what you gonna do about it? Do you think this happens often enough worth to call every single hand you play? Certainly not, or else all the people would have done it. You will lose more than you will earn. Everyone misses monster hands most of the time. Ask someone and he will tell you that. Be glad and feel lucky when you hit a full house with 93o, but dont feel sorry when you hit it after you have folded. If you could be predicting the future for hands like these, you wouldnt have played poker, but the Lottery.
And, if you are not shortstacked, dont consider going all-in with hands with KQ, unless you know that if you lose that hand it wont hurt your stack that much. You wouldnt want to gamble your tournament life on a hand like that. You can get called with A2 and lose to a higher card if nothing hits. Also, for a tight player on a slow tournament AJ isnt a really good hand also. But hands like QQ AK KK, I would go all-in if its neccessary.
 
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Having good cards pre doesn't mean the pot is yours for the win, it just means you have a chance to win. The cards will fall as they may and what you do with your cards that matters.

Folding 94o is the right call as they are trash cards, its irrelevant if they would of won you a FH, a poker player would be mucking these cards pre and you did that right thing to do that.

I just lost with a suited connector, on the flop I hit 2 pair and was winning till the dreaded river card gave my villain a better two pair. These things will happen from time to time and it is best not to dwell on it. Play your cards good and you will win in the long run :)

GL @ the tables :)
 
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QQ
AK
AQ
AJ
lost in all these hands almost one after the other.
folded 9 4 and missed full house
what to do?
continue playing my game or what?
what would you do?

This is poker.
If it was deterministic, the game would not exist.
You had a bad run, it's part of the game.

I think calling $2 blind with 94 is something to consider....
I now call junk if it's $2. I can make back 20 lost blinds on one hand that flops the nuts with junk.
 
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Folding 94o is the right call as they are trash cards, its irrelevant if they would of won you a FH, a poker player would be mucking these cards pre and you did that right thing to do that.

I really appreciate this reminder. Too often, I see disgruntled players who "regret" mucking 38o when the flop comes 882. We need to remember not to look at the results on a case-by-case basis, but the big picture of how profitable our decisions are in the long run. Thanks ;)
 
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I try to look back at my play and find comfort in the fact that I can usually find that I played correctly. If not, I try to fix that.


Someone calling you with Q4o when you have AKs and outdrawing you doesn't make them the better player.
 
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