Question about when to cash out of a table

#1 April 30th, 2015, 11:03 AM

I'm wanting to start playing more cash games now as I believe profit may be more consistent over time as compared to tournaments. Is this correct?

Also, let's say your bankroll allows you to buy in for $2 on a table, that money is available till it's $0 right and then you buy in again. But what happens if you run that money up to say $5 or $7 etc; all that money is at risk on that table, so when do you cash out that $5/7 and buy back in for $2 again?

I hope someone can understand what I'm trying to say. Thanks

#2 April 30th, 2015, 11:27 AM

Hello GreatLeslie. Profit in cash games over tourney? It's like asking if you should be a baseball player or a football player: which sport are you better at?

Cash games are less variance than tournaments, but it's apples and oranges, really. Play what you enjoy most; that's what you'll likely be most successful at.

As far as taking money off the table goes, I get up when I stop winning or don't feel comfortable anymore. Those would be the only two criteria relevant to whether or not I should keep playing.

Well, maybe if there was a beautiful woman involved. That would probably be a factor...

#3 April 30th, 2015, 1:35 PM

Rather than running your $2 down to $0 turn on the auto top up feature on the site so that every time you drop below the max buying it will fill you back up. That way you never have to play shortstacked and you can get payed off when you hit a big hand.

#4 April 30th, 2015, 3:41 PM

I have played allot of cash online. Knowing when to leave a table is a big part of, if you are going to make cash or not. One I have not mastered it yet. But here is my advice.

I am sure there are times when you have doubled your starting stack to go on and go bust at a table. This can be avoiding by having a Set amount, that once you reach you leave the table. + 50 % of your buy in ... + 100 % of buy in. What ever you are comfortable with. And leave once you hit that mark. I usually always wait until the BB gets around to me before I leave after hitting the amount. This doesn't mean you have to leave the table every single time after you get to your table goal. If the table is soft than keep playing until you feel you are no longer playing good enough to win vs. the others at the table.

#5 May 4th, 2015, 1:07 PM

I can definitely agree upon topping up once you fall below your preferred buyin amount.

Furthermore, I would like to highlight the benefits of staying with your profits on the felt with a big stack:
- you can double up big time once you make your hands and get paid off
- you can seek to clash with other big stacks and play very deep
- you can bully small stacks

In example:
I played eight tables in NL10 yesterday. The session went really well and especially on one table where I could work my stack to about $45. I received KK and 3bet another big stack ($42) who was raising utg+1. He called and the flop came down 35K rainbow. I checked to him and he bet about 80% pot so I knew he tried to either steal the pot or hit a big hand. I raised 3x and he called. Turn and River were bricks and I barrelled both. I constructed my betsizing in a way we could move all-in on the river and the plan played out well. He had a set of fives and I stacked him.
This example shows you how well a big stack can work for you. I was able to realize a big profit because I stayed on the felt with my previous profits.

With this strategy, there is of course risk involved: You can run into big hands&big stacks as well.
F.e. you have QQ as an overpair to the board. Lets say 22J. You get it in and villain shows KK/AA/JJ.

But once you are aware of your position and capabilities/possibilities (especially towards other big stacks on your level), you can work with some really advanced concepts of poker.

#6 May 4th, 2015, 3:05 PM

Simple as it is.

Say you double up, then you can log-out to avoid risking that wins.

#7 May 7th, 2015, 1:31 PM

I honestly do not know what the topic is referring this, cuandoi cash online game usually try to add to those streaks very often have one once in a while because, as has happened to me and I have often experienced defeat in having added on a table and then lose everything and ask a thousand times because it came out before ... however in live cash games are not as handle, conoco people often tell me that is not well seen to add in a few hands and fold .. but that should be in one's ability and what one is looking .. no? because if that tells me that is not well seen retire so fast after having joined in an AA hand I shot me and I paid with a 85 and I won with two pair or straight skinny suppose ,, I would ask ??? and what you just did okay ??? ie .. I think ue everyone always have to do what your conscience tells you and do not regret it even be thinking that tell the other if one does what realemnte feel like doing, because one is not in someone else's shoes to imagine the different places to perform in each specific case.

#8 May 7th, 2015, 1:51 PM

play for big money - certainly interesting. With a short stack, big win not win. But this is a major fail

#9 May 7th, 2015, 2:14 PM

You get more credibility at the table when you have auto-refill turned on (100 BBs)

It's hard for me to take someone serious at the table that has like 27 BBs or some weird amount at the cash table. You will see a lot of these people at the higher stakes tables (probably playing with the rest of their roll hoping to bink a big pot... leading to a hit and run from the table)

You could have 27 BBs though if you want to look like a fish and "level someone" but when you have AA and get it allin and double up to 54 BBs (not including the rake) you'll feel kind of foolish.

Standard 4 bet though is about 22-25 BBs (allows you to not be pot committed when someone 5 bet shoves over your suited connectors/Axs Kxs 4 bet bluff hands) IMO for a cash table. So honestly you will be 4 bet shoving a much wider range as a short stack.

#10 May 7th, 2015, 2:38 PM

Just go out when u feel it , or when u dont feel confortable at the table. Its all about player and his poker strategy.

#11 May 7th, 2015, 8:54 PM

you need to stop in time, and most importantly to enjoy the game!

#12 May 10th, 2015, 11:01 PM

There is benefits to staying with a large stack like one of the above posters said. But remember no matter how good you play or how soft the table is ... variance / lady luck will peak out his / her head and that large stack could be a short one in no time. There is also benefits to leaving once you double.

I don't auto top up. I will rebuy once I am busto if I want to keep playing but rarely top up. Again there is benefits to both. I think you are putting yourself at a disadvantage if you are not taken players who don't auto top up seriously.

#13 May 13th, 2015, 8:17 PM

I agree with you all about the bigger stack = bigger chance to win more money. I think doing this long term will be more profitable when I hit big hands.

#14 May 14th, 2015, 2:45 AM

Funny I should run into this tread, because today, for the first time in along time, I was playing 2 tables at Carbon at 10NL. One table I was up $1 and the other I was up $11. And I felt I should leave for awhile. And this is something I tell others not to do. At the first table I play 76 suited and the flop was 654 rainbow. Player before me, and the only one, bet $1 and stupid me with 66 goes all in thinking he was bluffing and he would fold. Well he called and had 10's. So like has been said here, leave when you think you should. I still won $2 though LOL

#15 May 15th, 2015, 6:12 PM

Stop when it feels right and enjoy the game.

#16 May 16th, 2015, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by PapaC

Funny I should run into this tread, because today, for the first time in along time, I was playing 2 tables at Carbon at 10NL. One table I was up $1 and the other I was up $11. And I felt I should leave for awhile. And this is something I tell others not to do. At the first table I play 76 suited and the flop was 654 rainbow. Player before me, and the only one, bet $1 and stupid me with 66 goes all in thinking he was bluffing and he would fold. Well he called and had 10's. So like has been said here, leave when you think you should. I still won $2 though LOL

It's crazy how someone can't fold TT post flop just because it's an overpair. It's always fun getting two pair or more against someone that can't fold AA at Carbon's 10 NL. Instant stack off! Question about when to cash out of a table

Question about when to cash out of a table

#17 May 17th, 2015, 7:29 PM

I started avoiding auto top-off just to better manage my bankroll. It's challenging to track how much you can lose.

What I've found doing so: All of my mistakes and big downswings come from re-buying a table that I would have busted out at in cash.

Cash games award those who can properly leave when up or down a well-calculated amount. At no point is it necessary to stay until you extinguish 100BB, but I certainly would have been better to do so in the vast majority of instances I hadn't.

#18 May 17th, 2015, 8:37 PM

-thats my problem with cash game,and i cant help you,and mee Question about when to cash out of a table

.. and thats whay i love tournament,and dont like caash game

#19 May 17th, 2015, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by GreatLeslie

I'm wanting to start playing more cash games now as I believe profit may be more consistent over time as compared to tournaments. Is this correct?

Cash games have less variance and allow you more control of your poker time. In a tourny you play till you bust. In a cash game you can quit any time. When the kids come home, when you get a headache, when its dinner time etc.

Originally Posted by GreatLeslie

Also, let's say your bankroll allows you to buy in for $2 on a table, that money is available till it's $0 right and then you buy in again. But what happens if you run that money up to say $5 or $7 etc; all that money is at risk on that table, so when do you cash out that $5/7 and buy back in for $2 again?

I hope someone can understand what I'm trying to say. Thanks

I always play the maximum the table will allow, although I don't like the auto top off. IMHO, one needs to be ready to maximize the win at all times, which means money on the table. If you double up, even better, especially when others have more than the minimum buy in. They have to be concerned about you pushing in that double stack, making their decisions harder. Anything that makes life harder for teh villain is good, IMHO.

Again IMHO, having a double stack is a reason to stay, not leave. Poker is not a single session, it is a lifetime of sessions. Where one stops and another begins, who can tell? The reasons I leave a table are in order:

1. The game turns bad for me. The donator busts out and there are nothing but good players left.

2. I'm tired. Why play tired? On line the game is never ending. Log off, go to bed, and play tomorrow.

3. Real life intrudes. The kids need attention, you promised the wife, time for dinner or to go to work, whatever. (yes I have a real job).

4. I lose interest. Happens more than you'd think.

5. I am tilting. About the third time I get stacked by a runner runner it drives me batty. I understand bad beats on an intellectual leave, but if I find myself yelling at the computer or wanting to throw my cards in someone's face it is time to go.

If the donk sitting on my immediate right rebuys after I have stacked him twice, I might ask the wife to hold dinner or to watch the kids, but I always go to work and I try and never play tired. BTW, I'm 61 so that tired thing happens more than you'd think.

#20 May 18th, 2015, 5:46 PM

Originally Posted by GreatLeslie

all that money is at risk on that table, so when do you cash out that $5/7 and buy back in for $2 again?

Just in case you were not aware most (all?) sites will not allow you to leave a table with $5/7 and then immediately buy back in to the same table for less money. There is a time limit where if you sit back down you will have to buy in with the $5/7 you left with. You can join another table with a buyin of $2 but not the exact same table.

#21 May 19th, 2015, 12:25 AM

Doubling your stack is not a good reason to leave a table, it's a good reason to stay. Playing looser because you've doubled your stack is a good way to end up leaving the table with nothing.

#22 May 20th, 2015, 5:05 AM

There are some advantages to sitting at a table with minimum buy-in
- you risk less money if you have a good hand but opponent has great one.
- people take you less seriously but they often underestimate you.
- people will see your bets because you don't have a big stack behind you to hurt them.

So, with these reasons in mind, Once I've trippled my buy-in, I will usually leave the table. Take a small profit rather than risk it all for a big profit.

#23 May 21st, 2015, 11:28 AM

It depends on how well you play deepstacked poker. Simple as. If your sweet spot is in the 100bb, or 150-200bb, then leave after you've doubled up. It can be scary to be playing AK and then hitting top pair, and getting outflopped by a set or ace-rag hitting two pair. So make sure you listen to your gut.

#24 May 27th, 2015, 3:42 AM

If you cash out on a certain table, usually there is a 30 minute waiting period before you can buy in again for the minimum amount.

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