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grapkulec
Rising Star
Bronze Level
hi all,
I started to play online poker week ago, couple of hours at weekend days, hour or so at "normal" days and some questions appear in my head. I hope you can help me with them and clarify some gray areas.
first of all from my very limited experience it seems that people will bet, raise and go all in with virtually any kind of hand. AA, 22, 42, 77, no matter what they have - they bet to the end just to see a river. and unfortunately I lose very often because they draw second pair, flush, three of a kind and at one occasion I lost to royal flush: I had AA in my hand so I bet 10BB, got called, flop was Ad, 6h, 3d, I went all in, guy went all in - cards landed: 5d, 6d and he had 2d4d in his hand. who would predict something like that?
of course yesterday I had AA, went all in, cards landed and I ended up winning with 5 straight so dumb luck plays both ways. but it seems to favour my opponents more than me so I don't like it
I tried some SnG's but I don't feel that kind of game. I tried to play from the start I never got into final three. I tried to play only strong hands and go all in - same result, only few dolars or euros lost.
I play at 0.02/0.04 tables so money goes relatively slow but opponents' draws sometimes costs me big chunks of my bankroll. And what mostly frustrates me is that when I try to play only strong hands I wait, and wait, and wait, and wait... and finally I have KK, bet strong and guy calls, flop is K 10 2, I go bigger and most of time guy is drawing something stronger than my K trio. so what's the point in waiting so long?
after couple of hours playing at micro I went to limit 0.5/1 table with my last 13 euros in my pocket and... left the table with 37 euros about half an hour later. there was six of us at table for 10 so rounds were pretty fast and blinds hurt a little but people seemed to be more resilient in hand they played. I bluffed few times with A10o but mostly I played pairs 99+ and folded otherwise so I think I played rather good game not like some maniac calling everything and drawing miracles. so could it be than higher stake is less dumb luck driven or I just got lucky like people I am complaining about earlier?
my biggest doubt is about "patience" part of poker. I play an hour, two, three, and play maybe 10 hands in that time and have 20 cents more that I came with so where is the profit from it. I know I can't turn 10 euros into millions but hour of my life is worth more than 5 cents! yes, maybe I should stop play poker and go do something with my life but I like the idea of learning and playing a good game.
and all of those advices for newbies like "they take your 5 bucks in a second by dumb luck but they loose it next day to somebody else". well, I don't care if they loose it, I care that they took money from me in a first place. so what, should I just fold with triple A when guy keeps calling my bets and raises because he may have something better? I'm not talking about bluffing, I'm talking about losing money with really strong hands. I know it happens due to luck factor of a game but why I keep losing and they keep winning?
ok, sorry for going postal on you but I felt like if I don't share my pains with somebody I go and do something completely stupid with my money.
I started to play online poker week ago, couple of hours at weekend days, hour or so at "normal" days and some questions appear in my head. I hope you can help me with them and clarify some gray areas.
first of all from my very limited experience it seems that people will bet, raise and go all in with virtually any kind of hand. AA, 22, 42, 77, no matter what they have - they bet to the end just to see a river. and unfortunately I lose very often because they draw second pair, flush, three of a kind and at one occasion I lost to royal flush: I had AA in my hand so I bet 10BB, got called, flop was Ad, 6h, 3d, I went all in, guy went all in - cards landed: 5d, 6d and he had 2d4d in his hand. who would predict something like that?
of course yesterday I had AA, went all in, cards landed and I ended up winning with 5 straight so dumb luck plays both ways. but it seems to favour my opponents more than me so I don't like it
I tried some SnG's but I don't feel that kind of game. I tried to play from the start I never got into final three. I tried to play only strong hands and go all in - same result, only few dolars or euros lost.
I play at 0.02/0.04 tables so money goes relatively slow but opponents' draws sometimes costs me big chunks of my bankroll. And what mostly frustrates me is that when I try to play only strong hands I wait, and wait, and wait, and wait... and finally I have KK, bet strong and guy calls, flop is K 10 2, I go bigger and most of time guy is drawing something stronger than my K trio. so what's the point in waiting so long?
after couple of hours playing at micro I went to limit 0.5/1 table with my last 13 euros in my pocket and... left the table with 37 euros about half an hour later. there was six of us at table for 10 so rounds were pretty fast and blinds hurt a little but people seemed to be more resilient in hand they played. I bluffed few times with A10o but mostly I played pairs 99+ and folded otherwise so I think I played rather good game not like some maniac calling everything and drawing miracles. so could it be than higher stake is less dumb luck driven or I just got lucky like people I am complaining about earlier?
my biggest doubt is about "patience" part of poker. I play an hour, two, three, and play maybe 10 hands in that time and have 20 cents more that I came with so where is the profit from it. I know I can't turn 10 euros into millions but hour of my life is worth more than 5 cents! yes, maybe I should stop play poker and go do something with my life but I like the idea of learning and playing a good game.
and all of those advices for newbies like "they take your 5 bucks in a second by dumb luck but they loose it next day to somebody else". well, I don't care if they loose it, I care that they took money from me in a first place. so what, should I just fold with triple A when guy keeps calling my bets and raises because he may have something better? I'm not talking about bluffing, I'm talking about losing money with really strong hands. I know it happens due to luck factor of a game but why I keep losing and they keep winning?
ok, sorry for going postal on you but I felt like if I don't share my pains with somebody I go and do something completely stupid with my money.