Mathematical problem

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This is one of the standard mathematical problems. Even can be said that one of the easiest. In this issue, the question is whether to work or do not value bet on river.

We have: Kh: 9h. HU game. PF raise 3xBB, Whelan called.

Flop: Kc: QC: 2s
Villanova check, and 4.5 xBB, Villanova calls

Turn: 4h
Villanova check, we 10xBB, Villanova calls

River: 6h
Villanova check, We?
 
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I fail to see how this problem is a math problem. Its more of a "what does villain call with" problem.
 
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Check because we are anxious to see what made him not bet on the river?
 
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I fail to see how this problem is a math problem. Its more of a "what does villain call with" problem.
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Yeah, I'm not seeing where math comes into play here. You've got to be asking yourself what he'd be check/calling with in this situation...which means you have to be thinking about his play style and image.

(Also, what's Whelan and Villanova? Player names? Weird slang I haven't heard yet?)
 
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c9h13no3 said:
I fail to see how this problem is a math problem. Its more of a "what does villain call with" problem.
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This is a mathematical question. For those who have never before done this kind of thing, here's a little guidance.Only first aid.When you ask such a question is now important that we played a good hand or not, and trying to right this way we get to more information about the opponent.That is it trying to learn from these problems.One of the issues which can be placed and who I am and if you set a value bet to work or not.o give the correct answer to this question we must ask a couple of sub-questions.First and very important issue is that his range before the flop, the flop, on the turn. Let us not forget that the greatest range before the flop, and that range can not be increased but only to be reduced.when you look at what the opponent before the flop did some things that we can characterize as a very possible of the range, the less possible and almost impossible.Example: 92off in this case is almost impossible part of a range. Here assumes that the opponent is not bad, desperate player.And he knows the game of poker.Now let's go back stim which should concentrate only on the opponent's range.So the question is: Which range-om opponent coming up the river in this situation?
 
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I think he mean's villain but not sure what the rest means.

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This is a mathematical question. For those who have never before done this kind of thing, here's a little guidance.Only first aid.When you ask such a question is now important that we played a good hand or not, and trying to right this way we get to more information about the opponent.That is it trying to learn from these problems.One of the issues which can be placed and who I am and if you set a value bet to work or not.o give the correct answer to this question we must ask a couple of sub-questions.First and very important issue is that his range before the flop, the flop, on the turn. Let us not forget that the greatest range before the flop, and that range can not be increased but only to be reduced.when you look at what the opponent before the flop did some things that we can characterize as a very possible of the range, the less possible and almost impossible.Example: 92off in this case is almost impossible part of a range. Here assumes that the opponent is not bad, desperate player.And he knows the game of poker.Now let's go back stim which should concentrate only on the opponent's range.So the question is: Which range-om opponent coming up the river in this situation?
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What?
 
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dexon303 said:
This is a mathematical question.
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[ ] OP has a good understanding of math.
[ ] English is OP's first language.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, or what question you're trying to ask of us. You want us to figure out what villain's range is that he checks to us on the river?
 
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I guess maybe his point on the math part is calculating how large of a value bet villian will call? The information here isn't nearly enough to make that determination though, and math alone certainly isn't enough.

Heck, from looking at this, for all we know the guy is slow playing aces. Or he could be chasing a draw. Or a maniac who raised with Q2 and hit two pair.
 
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koren said:
bet 1/3 bot or check more easy, but better turn check river check
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If you bet out and he's got KQ he's most likely going to push, so why open that door? If this is early in HU I check just to see what he's check/calling with. Curious to know what the stakes/stack sizes are.
 
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The biggest question I got in this (& the one I'm having most difficulty in answering) is...umm... 'what's the question'?
 
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lol...Dude when you're puzzled about something and have only top pair then I'd suggest you check, I mean he called you this far and you have a chance of winning so why would you want to lose it to a reraise?(Or lose more for that matter)...

But my opinion is this:
He's a bad player who had something like a straight draw or a flush draw and kept buying it until the river where he obviously didn't get his 9 or his A or his club so he checked...He might be a little more tricky and want to see what you range is! So he might have something like AQ and freezing you to death by his calls so he can see what kind of player you are(I mean you can pay for that kind of information).

That's opinion...as for Math: ???
 
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You had me at math problem but lost me shortly after that. I'll come back later for this one.
 
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dexon303 said:
This is one of the standard mathematical problems. Even can be said that one of the easiest. In this issue, the question is whether to work or do not value bet on river.

We have: Kh: 9h. HU game. PF raise 3xBB, Whelan called.

Flop: Kc: QC: 2s
Villanova check, and 4.5 xBB, Villanova calls

Turn: 4h
Villanova check, we 10xBB, Villanova calls

River: 6h
Villanova check, We?
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V had AJ c or A 10 c and on Royal Flush draw.
 
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It's hard to incorporate the math without knowing stack sizes, I mean if villan has $700 left and there is $1200 in the pot he probably not folding any pair. It's just an incomplete problem all around.
 
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[ ] Point is articulate, the question clearly posed and everybody understands what is expected of them.
[x] Villain is going to check/raise or check/fold.
[x] This thread has already wasted two minutes of my life.
 
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