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Hand: J♣ 9♣ in SB
PreFlop: Folds to HJ who sits with about 7K+ raises 2BB to 120
Flop: J♦ 3♦ 8♣
I Check. BB Checks. HJ Checks.
Turn: A♦
I Check. BB Checks. HJ Bets.
I Call. BB Folds.
River: 6♠
I Check. HJ Shoves.
I had the effective stack. On the river I had 1,550. Villain in HJ had 6K+. A river shove to V was a quarter of their stack. The pot was about 1K at that point. If I work it out backwards, the turn bet was pot sized, and V raised 2x from HJ PreFlop. 30/60 blinds. So, 360 going into the flop. I check top pair on the flop because I anticipate a c-bet from HJ. If he would c-bet, I could check/raise with top pair to put pressure on a floating AQ, AK, KQ; and/or to induce a shove from a flush draw. I’d welcome either, but not both.
It checked around on the flop. The A♦ fell on the turn. What an interesting card. It was my belief that if someone had a flush draw on the flop, they’d have bet it. In my opinion, HJ would’ve bet bigger PF if they’d had a big ace. I was not convinced that my pair of jacks was beat at this point, and I’d suspect that more flush draws would be betting this card than aces would. So I checked, with the intention of calling. BB checks. HJ bets pot 360. I think momentarily and call. If BB shoves over the top, I can dip out. BB folds.
We’re heads up to a river of [6s] . This does nothing for the drawing hands. The board is J♦ 3♦ 8♣ A♦ 6♠ . If I was beat on the turn, I was beat on the river, but if I was good on the turn, then I'd be good on the river. I check and V over-shoves, putting me all in.
I tanked for like an hour (read as "30 seconds"). In my head, I could just not figure how an ace would bet this board for value. The only hand calling would be a flush. What Ace bets that board??? Any Ace would check behind to recognize their value for cheap. Any ace stupid enough to jam that river would get snapped off by a flush of any size. No ace would bet this river for value.
But there are a lot of missed draws and airballs that V could be holding. Any broadway draw, all the 9T’s, and the missed 1 diamonds.
This was a big decision for me. His story didn’t add up quite right and I felt strongly that my pair of Jacks was good. So I called.
Do you want to know what V turned over?
Was I crazy to make the river call? Was I crazy to make the turn call?
I think that if I’d jammed the river, I’d get a fold.
PreFlop: Folds to HJ who sits with about 7K+ raises 2BB to 120
Flop: J♦ 3♦ 8♣
I Check. BB Checks. HJ Checks.
Turn: A♦
I Check. BB Checks. HJ Bets.
I Call. BB Folds.
River: 6♠
I Check. HJ Shoves.
I had the effective stack. On the river I had 1,550. Villain in HJ had 6K+. A river shove to V was a quarter of their stack. The pot was about 1K at that point. If I work it out backwards, the turn bet was pot sized, and V raised 2x from HJ PreFlop. 30/60 blinds. So, 360 going into the flop. I check top pair on the flop because I anticipate a c-bet from HJ. If he would c-bet, I could check/raise with top pair to put pressure on a floating AQ, AK, KQ; and/or to induce a shove from a flush draw. I’d welcome either, but not both.
It checked around on the flop. The A♦ fell on the turn. What an interesting card. It was my belief that if someone had a flush draw on the flop, they’d have bet it. In my opinion, HJ would’ve bet bigger PF if they’d had a big ace. I was not convinced that my pair of jacks was beat at this point, and I’d suspect that more flush draws would be betting this card than aces would. So I checked, with the intention of calling. BB checks. HJ bets pot 360. I think momentarily and call. If BB shoves over the top, I can dip out. BB folds.
We’re heads up to a river of [6s] . This does nothing for the drawing hands. The board is J♦ 3♦ 8♣ A♦ 6♠ . If I was beat on the turn, I was beat on the river, but if I was good on the turn, then I'd be good on the river. I check and V over-shoves, putting me all in.
I tanked for like an hour (read as "30 seconds"). In my head, I could just not figure how an ace would bet this board for value. The only hand calling would be a flush. What Ace bets that board??? Any Ace would check behind to recognize their value for cheap. Any ace stupid enough to jam that river would get snapped off by a flush of any size. No ace would bet this river for value.
But there are a lot of missed draws and airballs that V could be holding. Any broadway draw, all the 9T’s, and the missed 1 diamonds.
This was a big decision for me. His story didn’t add up quite right and I felt strongly that my pair of Jacks was good. So I called.
Do you want to know what V turned over?
Was I crazy to make the river call? Was I crazy to make the turn call?
I think that if I’d jammed the river, I’d get a fold.
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