I want to try to bridge the gap here:
In turbo and standard tournament push here is OK and I push with 77+ in turbo. But remember this is league tournament with slowly blinds. Players here usually are tight and in this when others villains here show you with their stack, they should have better cards and this move more often will be EV-. It's worth taking into account in the league games. I play here bet to 1000 and fold when villains AI. In league more players will play more solidly than in the standard freeroll tournaments in this level, because they play for the team and everyone tries to play well.
it's a push all day long.
never limping or raising or folding
to illustrate just what a fistpump shove this is: snapshove says:
55+
A8s+
A5s
AJo+
Q9s+
J9s+
T9s
I don't agree with Lilu's action - raising small and then folding. That's going to be burning chips, and 99 doesn't play well enough in a bloated pot when short stacked to make this preferable to jamming.
But I also am not sure we should be going with snapshove here either. I think with 14bb all our actions from UTG should be either shove or fold, and 99 should DEFINITELY be a shove. When later position players call us we are often doing very well. And even when we are up against AQ and AK we are in really good shape to double.
However I don't think
hands like Q9s are a jam from UTG in this field NECESSARILY. But they could be. If players are calling off "too tight" then my inclination would actually be to jam a bit wider, rather than narrower, than Nash. And if they are calling off too loose, with hands like QJ, KQ, etc, then we'd probably want to start eliminating some of the Q9s hands that are often dominated and relying more on pairs and the bigger hands ourselves to print when they call too wide.
I think Lilu's response to facing tighter opponents is misguided. We don't need to jam tighter against tighter call off ranges, because our opponents just won't pick up big hands often enough. However big hands DO come around more often than we think, so if I think I can exploitatively fold tighter in EP so that I can jam MUCH wider in MP and LP, then I might start to make that my strategy.
However a hand like 99 is just too good. It is always going to be in my open jamming range from every position.