$3 NLHE STT: Is this a correct resteal if I assume he steals here 80 percent of the time

$3 NLHE STT: Is this a correct resteal if I assume he steals here 80 percent of the time

Winning Poker Network Game #655086496: No Limit Holdem (50/100) [2016/06/07 02:11:18 UTC]
Table: $3 Regular 9-Max, Table 1
Tournament: 5259281
Seats: 9
Seat 1: NYTider (3,704)
Seat 3: Navi_P0k3r (1,425)
Seat 4: antonfs1986 (1,366)
Seat 5: Rikardu7 (1,282)
Seat 7: BrashL (4,798)
Seat 8: Jgreenwolf (925)
Button is seat 7
Jgreenwolf: posts small blind 50
NYTider: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Jgreenwolf: dealt [2d Kd]
Navi_P0k3r: folds
antonfs1986: folds
Rikardu7: folds
BrashL: raises 342
(Hero): If I assume he steals here a vast majority of the time is it out of the question to go for a steal here.

Given your stack size or effective stack sizes , you aren't re-stealing anything since your opponent only has to call 383 to win a pot of 1,367. Giving them 3.5:1 to call.

However, if you think your opponent is shoving with a range as wide as 80%, then you're in a 50/50 situation with K2s. Given your short stack, I think this is a great spot to get your money in against their range.

it's a great idea to keep an eye out for resteal spots, but you want to be able to generate folding equity, since this is a SNG we are not actually in bad shape here, the stack sizes show us that we are basically in tied last place wth 3 other player with two clear large stacks. ICM absolutely hates small stacks going up against big stacks, we have basically no fold equity here and we also have one large stack to act behind which is another range we have to deal with.

it's basically a pretty leaky/bad spot to get your money in.

Having said all that, you are also in the absolute worst stack position at the table, being wedged between the two big stacks, so you will have to take absolutely every single shove spot you can and try to do it while you are in the button or CO so you can jam into the stacks that are of a similar size to you. And also don't hesistate to call off against one of those stacks as winning vs them will give you a massive boost in equity whereas winning vs one of the big stacks will give you alot less.

Quite happy to go more in depth for you guys if you want to learn more just ask.

Oh, I didn't see this was an SNG.

ohshootmybad said:

Ohshootmybad, I didn't see this was an SNG.

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WiZZiM said:

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Fold. You do not have any fold equity with 10bbs over a 3.4x raise here, and assuming our opponent opens 80% of hands and calls off 100% of the time when you shove, we have just less than 50% equity. When taking into account the probability that the BB overcalls, it's certainly a -EV shove here.

Equity Win Tie
MP2 49.92% 47.62% 2.31% K2s
MP3 50.08% 47.77% 2.31% 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, A2o+, K2o+, Q4o+, J4o+, T5o+, 95o+, 85o+, 75o+, 65o, 54o (this is an 80% opening range)

Where can u find these calculations I'm curious want to start better using my hud.

Also how does one truly determine ICM If it is a positive play in the long term

jgreenman18 said:

Where can u find these calculations I'm curious want to start better using my hud.

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The calculator above merely works out how good your hand is vs a range of hands.

Some free ones are pokerstove or equilab


An icm calculator does a whole lot more. But basically it calculates tournament equity or what your stack is worth i terms of actual $.

You genrrally need to pay for these and also its usually highly detrimental to your game if you dont know how to use the calculator properly as you will be training yourself to play incorrectly in a lot or spots. The big two are sng wizard and icmizer. The latter being generally better.

To use them efdectively you need to firstly know how it calculates things. Then you will need to learn its downsides and things it cant calculate. After that you will need to learn how to change ranges to get a better result... of course to get even better results you will need to get good at reading opponants ranges your hud can help you a bit. Lastly you will want to work out a training plan so you can study the calling or shovint ranges efdectively.

I know it seems like a lot to do. But if you dont learn it you may as well not bother to begin with. If you wanted to create a learning icm thread id be happy to contribute.

$3 NLHE STT: Is this a correct resteal if I assume he steals here 80 percent ...

I am very interested in bettering all aspects of my game as I am a younger aspiring player only 19yo but can crush local live games and want to transition my play online I often can read people decent in a live game giving me an edge. I often struggle with using an hud to full effectiveness thought because I generally just use it to identify how loose or tight and opponent plays. Can u explain the effectiveness of something like poker stove or an ICM calculator I will make a thread under tournament poker though for more tips from others too. Could you also give me an example of a good training plan besides reviewing hands and reading books. How do the true best study and perfect their game. I may post more hands later in hopes you could maybe identify more holes in my game.

sure

poker stove is good for working out equations by hand, but it's also good for working out what a 20% 30% range looks like. It's also good to know how certain hands play vs certain ranges, for example

Lets say you are looking to shove all in, and your opponant is likely to call with x range.

You put in differing hands and see which ones fair better. For example, we have two hands, one is A2s and one is 89s. We know the villian calls with only A3+ Pairs and broadway, which hand plays better vs his range?

The ICM calculator's main purpose is to train yourself to make good long term moves, this helps you simplify thinking in game so you are able to play many tables at once, which is really the goal of most SNG play.

Example of a good training plan is a difficult one to explain without you having experience with the basic use of the software and HUD. I'm quite happy to make a training plan and post it for everyone as an example, but you really need to learn some basics first. Reviewing and reading is great, but having done it all before i know there are more efficient ways of doing things, training plan is one of them. Basically try to avoid most of the videos out there and train specifically for the types of games you play, avoid long videos and sweat sessions and focus more on developing simple ranges that you can use in game and that work. One good example of that is making your own shove/fold charts using ICM calculators, that is a little bit advanced but once you have the basics down i can show you how to do all that. The good thing about your own shove/fold charts is that it's training yourself to know these ranges in your head, it's a cheatsheet in case you get stuck in game, eventually you just know them, and also since you make your own, you can tailor them to the style of opponanst you normally face, instead of using charts which other people have made, i've seen people even on this site use MTT charts for SNG which is pretty silly.

Yes post hand examples, and pinpoint trouble areas. Trouble areas are anywhere in game where you have to stop and really think about decisions long and hard. You should be striving to play many tables but doing so on autopilot and not having to think that hard about decisions in game.

So long story short, training and study helps you make automatic fast moves in game, so you can profitably play many tables so you spend overall less time playing, more volume and ultimately a better $$ per hour which is really all that matters when you are thinking about playing for a living.