$2.25 NLHE STT: Flopped 2 pair, opponent wakes up on river

Wardo420

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$2.25 NL HE STT: Flopped 2 pair, opponent wakes up on river

BTN had been playing seemingly every hand. A very poor player, yet getting lucky all game. He had once been the dominating big stack at the table (like over 5k at 30/60), but had since donked it off. Only notes that weak bets post flop = weak hand and the very fitting hee haw. No HUD, so unfortunately no stats.

I was wondering if my line was ok, or if my bet sizing was slightly too small. I feel now I should have bet more on the flop, around 240 or so. Also, what range are you giving him on each street, and what action would you take on the river? I was just looking for any advice and reasoning. I will post the results at a later time.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 2.25 Tournament, 60/120 Blinds (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com
MP (t865)
CO (t2680)
Button (t3810)
SB (t1920)
Hero (BB) (t3025)
UTG (t1200)
Hero's M: 16.81
Preflop: Hero is BB with 4
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, Q
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3 folds, Button calls t120, 1 fold, Hero checks
Flop: (t300) K
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, Q
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, 4
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(2 players)
Hero bets t180, Button calls t180
Turn: (t660) J
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(2 players)
Hero bets t360, Button calls t360
River: (t1380) 8
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(2 players)
Hero bets t720, Button raises to t1920
 
womackcali02

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I think there are alot of things to take in to account here. Most of them being how is the villian playing. This would be an easy fold for me. Calling all the way down and reraising is most often not a bluff in this spot. I don't think you played it bad but the turn and river are definetly not good cards for your hand.
 
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Kind of a sucky spot but i call and get angry when i see a better two pair/straight. I guess villain could have KJ/QJ/MAYYBEE T9 but i cant see why KJ doesnt raise the flop or turn. As played i think the flop bet is fine but on the turn id bet more like 450-500 and probably shove river. Then again i suck at poker
 
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you should go all in now.
you are in with half of your stack
BB is 120
he will push just with K because he is button and you are BB out of position.
 
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To be honest I call the river, and I think he has a busted flush. a limp suggests no real strength preflop, maybe even A9 is in his range with a missed straight draw. I think you should be ahead here and villain takes a stab at the pot with a missed draw hand without showdown value. Other hands to consider for me here are KT, QT and JT probably offsuit, as villain may have raised these PF depending on his playing style
 
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I'm kinda torn on the turn action for this hand. That jack hits a lot of hands and while it's certainly possible we're still ahead I think I'd prefer pot control to extracting thin value here. I probably check both the turn and the river, with the intention of calling a sane sized bet on either street.

I probably bet the flop bigger too, more like 250ish, both for value and to charge draws but I don't think betting 180 was a huge mistake or anything.

As far as ranges go, preflop we can be looking at just about anything here: small to medium pairs, suited connectors, ace rag and any two paint as well as sometimes bigger legit hands.

Flop doesn't change much, it could still be an flush draw, JT, Kx, Qx, AJ/AT, sets, slowplayed KQ or maybe medium pairs say 77-TT. Much the same goes for the turn. On the river it's pretty much polarised - I think we're either looking at a set / two pair or we're looking at a busted draw. The trouble with that is we're behind all but the very worst two pair hands and there's a load of better ones villian could have.

As for the actual river decision... I dunno, I probably hate it and fold. We've got more 10BB behind so there's still some play in our stack, we don't beat much other than bluffs and there's just too many ways we could be beat here. Plus we've shown strength the whole way so if this is a bluff it's a pretty crazy one on villain's part.
 
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Thank you all for the feedback. Interesting to see the split decisions between calling and folding the river. I ended up all in on the river and unforunately for me villain hit his gutshot with ATo on the turn and roped me in. I guess I just refused to beleive these types of players have a hand. Now I can see the viable reasons for folding. Thank you all again.
 
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Little late response but I pot size bet it on the flop and check/call turn and river as long as they are reasonable bets, as Oz said. We are almost certainly ahead on the flop, and most kings won't fold to our bet anyways, but our hand is definitely vulnerable.
 
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