Short stacked, JJ with A on board

[Bombjack]

I think this should have been all-in pre-flop... but tbh I wanted a bit of action given my desperate chip state. Anyway, given the slightly dodgy opening raise, what do you do here? Do you push and represent the Ace, or check, because he's only going to call you if you're beaten?

Afraid I don't have much of a read on soifman. artus is super-duper aggressive, but he folded.

***** Hand History for Game 5435093789 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $11 Buy-in Trny: 30358038 Level: 5 Blinds(200/400) - Monday, November 13, 18:19:18 ET 2006
Table Table 127691 (real money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 5: soifman ( $4583 )
Seat 7: Bombjack_x ( $2564 )
Seat 10: artus7 ( $12853 )
Trny: 30358038 Level: 5
Blinds(200/400)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Bombjack_x [ ]
Bombjack_x raises [1100].
artus7 folds.
soifman calls [700].
** Dealing Flop ** [ , , ]
soifman checks.
Bombjack_x...

 

[joosebuck]

push all in preflop. you dont have the ammo to throw at the flop of 2400~ish & you're pretty much committed no matter what he has.

 

[ChuckTs]

What joose said.

You don't have 10BBs, which I set the mark at for all in point, and you don't necessarily want action from A, K or Qx.

Considering you made a 'dogdy' raise PF, I think you have to push. With no reads, at teh $10 level I'd assume he'd be calling with anything down to QJ (hell i've seen much worse from $30 players), so I think your chances of him not having an ace are enough that this makes it a must-push.

Anyways, avoid this whole stick situation by just pushing PF.

 

[OneMoreBust]

IMO you already committed yourself pre flop. Obviously this was an all in preflop move.

so yes, follow through on the flop. Folding is not a good move.

you have 1400 left if you fold? and you are going to be putting 400 in next hand anyway... then 200

so that will give you like 3-5 hands to find a hand better than JJ, and even if you double up there you will be lucky to hit 2400 chips.

 

[t1riel]

If you're going to make a raise like that, you might as well push all in preflop. I rather win the blinds with Pocket Jacks then lose a lot of chips by getting outdrawn or a donk slowplaying an Ace.

 

[shinedown.45]

All-in is the best move here, you're shortstacked and the blinds will kill you soon enough and if I read the history right, you're ITM if I'm not mistaken so push.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

PUSH PREFLOP! Seriously, words cannot express how bad not pushing preflop here is. You "wanted a bit of action"? Well, you got a bit of action, and look at the horrible decision you have to make now. Your raise wouldn't be so bad with AA or maybe KK (though I'd still argue that pushing is far superior in these cases), but with JJ you HAVE to push preflop - if you get called you're almost certainly ahead (something you can't say if you raise as you did, an overcard flops and you push the flop), and if the others fold a 25% stack increase is not to be scoffed at.

As played just push the flop, some lower PPs might call you I suppose. You can't really check-fold and leave yourself with 1.4k behind.

 

[Bombjack]

Well I went all-in and he called with . He'd probably have called my all-in preflop with that as well. I'm just thinking I should have checked behind because if he's only going to call if I bet if he has the Ace. With a PP he's either pushing or folding pre-flop I'd have thought.

 

[pocketTWOs]

when i was watching the wsop 2006 on TV over the weekend,
the guy who won, "gold" was going allin with any 2 pairs.
one of the guys who talks thoughout the show said.
"if you ever want to know how to play pairs, just watch this show and do what "Gold" did"

with that said, in a tournie, this is and allin hand.
in a ring game, its a whole different ball game, or "Card Game"

 

[t1riel]

He'd probably have called my all-in preflop with that as well.

I won't be too sure about that. Risking over half your stack with Ace-Rag? Unless this player is VERY loose or a calling station, I'm not too sure he would have called your pre-flop all in.

 

[ChuckTs]

He's only got ~10 BBs left and has a solid hand for 3-handed. Had bombjack shown any sign of pushing with less than acceptable hands at this point this would actually be a pretty easy call for me. It's close, but depending no my reads it's definitely not a hand I look at and dump immediately.

Good players should be pushing with a hand range much worse than A7 in Bombjacks situation.

 

[dsm420]

I don't think there is any way you can avoid being busted out here. that's poker

 

[OneMoreBust]

He's only got ~10 BBs left and has a solid hand for 3-handed. Had bombjack shown any sign of pushing with less than acceptable hands at this point this would actually be a pretty easy call for me. It's close, but depending no my reads it's definitely not a hand I look at and dump immediately.

Good players should be pushing with a hand range much worse than A7 in Bombjacks situation.

If you call with A7 and lose, you go from a 5 to 1 favorite to a 2 to 1 favorite....

I dont think it is as much of a clear call as you state in a SNG, but....