50nl FR Rivered 3rd nut flush to overbet shove

pokerstars GAME #16166874431: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/03/22 - 13:54:55 (ET)
Table 'Erinome II' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: kimseongchan ($79.65 in chips)
Seat 2: zachvac ($55.35 in chips)
Seat 3: dong88 ($50 in chips)
Seat 4: DonnaDH ($15.25 in chips)
Seat 5: Tooldes05 ($41 in chips)
Seat 6: Auflauf ($52.85 in chips)
Seat 7: JimboNYY24 ($51.80 in chips)
Seat 8: vinniepooh ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 9: Wongboy ($30.50 in chips)
DonnaDH: posts small blind $0.25
Tooldes05: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zachvac [Jh 9h]
Auflauf: folds
JimboNYY24: folds
vinniepooh: raises $1.50 to $2
Wongboy: folds
kimseongchan: folds
zachvac: calls $2
dong88: folds
DonnaDH: folds
Tooldes05: folds
*** FLOP *** [2h 4s 5h]
vinniepooh: checks
zachvac: checks
*** TURN *** [2h 4s 5h] [3c]
vinniepooh: checks
zachvac: bets $2
vinniepooh: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [2h 4s 5h 3c] [Ah]
vinniepooh: bets $45.25 and is all-in
zachvac: ????

Villain is 15/3/1.29

I would call without a question. He might be raising all in with a higher straight than what's on the board against your flush. He also might have a flush, but even if he does, only two cards that can beat you and I would without question call.

Please tell results.

I don't think we can fold this. He's only got like one realistic hand (KQh) that has you beat but it doesn't even fit this line. Why would he check the flop and ch-c the turn? This looks really odd but I can't lay this down.

I'd call. I just don't see him making that big shove on the end if he has a bigger flush as you have given him no reason to think you had cards a hand to call with.
As ChuckTs said, K/Qh is the only likely hand that has you bear. He's not going to play K/T-h or Q/T-h that way.

Maybe he has 6/6 or 6/7s and is overplaying it to elicit call.

Actually... I'm going to reach and say that he flopped a set and is pissed off at himself for getting trappy and letting the straight appear, so it's a steam over-bet to get all of the pot that he feels that he "should" have won.

snapcall/fistpump.

this is a random 'i playz teh board' bluff far too much of the time for us to even consider folding. if he has KhXh/QhXh, well, c'est la vie. as people have said KhQh is the only real hand that beats us and sort of makes sense, but a 15/3 generally isn't raising KQs in early position either.

in fact the more I look at this the more it looks like a horrifyingly badly played AA to me.

i don't like preflop at all but i'll save you the lecture.

snapfist/callpump but i like betting flop

ok, well he had AK, had turned the straight and guess he panicked when he played the board on the river and just shoved to get the pot that was rightfully his lol. I just wasn't sure about someone that tight/passive making that play, but I guess since he'd need AK/AQ/KQ of hearts, this isn't a hard call, I just got totally thrown off when I hit my flush and he outright shoved. I was almost positive he had also flushed, and I'm still beating the average flush, but the fact that he raises 3% of hands and raised this preflop was putting doubts in my head.

nh

Dorkus Malorkus said:

i don't like preflop at all but i'll save you the lecture.

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I don't hate it.

Villain is as nitty as they come, and usually players like this make their plays very transparent, so we can both extract kajillions of value and push him off better hands a lot of the time with floats/raising c-bets.

It's not great, but I don't hate it.