$5 NLHE 6-max: The wacky adventures of my pocket tens

$5 NL HE 6-max: The wacky adventures of my pocket tens

Villains stats were 56/3/11 after 30 hands.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($5)
SB ($6.27)
BB ($10.68)
UTG ($5.09)
MP ($5.81)
Hero (CO) ($5)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 10 , 10
2 folds, Hero bets $0.20, 1 fold, SB calls $0.18, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.60) K , 8 , 9 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.40) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

River: ($4.20) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $4.20, Hero calls $3 (All-In)

Total pot: $10.20 | Rake: $0.68



Tell me what K is in this guy's range. 88/99 make sense, but so do JT, 67, T7 and some pair + flush draws.

Do you call this shove or fold on the turn? - btw, baluga theorem states that you should "re-evaluate your hand facing a turn raise" not "you should fold".

kingkowboys said:

This guy's donk bet would tell me that he has a hand. Its unlikely he would try this as a bluff. Its possible but an advanced play for this level. His king range would be K9-KQ. I would expect a reraise preflop or on the flop with AK. Calling the preflop and flop bets would be more inline with a KQ-9 hand at this level.

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My cbet was actually purely for value in this hand, as soon as it was checked to me I figured there were no K's out there. I think they either donk bet or c/r depending on how good their kicker is.

The only players at $5nl who seem care what a cbet is (or remember who the preflop agressor was) are TAGfish and a 56/3/11 (over a small sample, but the 11 is aggression factor not aggression percentage so he's been a little crazy aggressive post-flop) is definately not a TAGfish, he either bets if he's got a hand or check raises if he has a big hand and wants to get tricky. It's only near nut hands or un-made hands that I can see getting check-called.

I also don't expect the turn bet to be an advanced play, although you're right that in the right context a turn donk bet or c/r with air can be. Instead I'm basically assuming that he's playing his cards face up "wow that turn helped me, I should bet" or just being an agro fish with a draw because I really can't see him having the K at this stage (FWIW, he didn't have a K but that of course doesn't mean that he couldn't).

If he doesn't have the K he has draws and the nuts and there are way more combinations of draws although granted the draws are each less likely to donk the turn than the nut hands.

kingkowboys said:

88,99,JT,67, 89 also make sense for possible hands here. It really depends on how loose this opponent plays. His donk bet with a club turn would indicate a made hand and unlikely a flush or straight draw. I wouldn't expect many players to bet out with a draw at this level. Especially with a preflop raiser and cbet. While I probably wouldn't fold on the turn, I'm folding on the river. Its unlikely that he is that bad of a player to stack off with a pair of 8s, 9s, or air. Had he checked the river I would have checked it back to him expecting to either see a weak pair of Ks or win the pot.

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Why would you call the turn and fold the river? Once you call the turn I think you have to be planning to call/bet the river. Honestly if he checked to me I was making a thin value bet for the pair + draw hands.
Also, 50 VP$IP with 3 PFR even over a tiny sample indicates a fish, along with a ridiculously high aggression factor, I think it's safe to assume he's stacking all kinds of stupid stuff.


I think my play was right if he never has a K but whether or not he can have it, I'm not sure.

I don't necessarily disagree with your response, I think it was fairly accurate. I just obviously think that in this situation that this hand was borderline +EV (or horribly -EV if the range I put him on was wrong).

He's 56/3 so plug 56% into pokerstove and we see that all Kings are basically in his range. But I still don't hate the call because the only kings that he plays this way is K3. He likely raises K8/K9 on the flop and doesn't lead K5 on the turn.

So basically he has sets/89/K3 or air when he bets that river imo.

Dont mind the call. Where probably gonna be ahead alot but dont be surprised when he shows you K3.

btw what does baluga thereom got to do with this hand?
beluga is when u get c/r,raised on the turn after villain flats flop and usualy means TP is no good. doesnt really apply to villains donking turn.

sindri_93 said:

Dont mind the call. Where probably gonna be ahead alot but dont be surprised when he shows you K3.

btw what does baluga thereom got to do with this hand?
beluga is when u get c/r,raised on the turn after villain flats flop and usualy means TP is no good. doesnt really apply to villains donking turn.

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Yeah I think we might be ahead here too. This is because with his af so high, his bet looks to me like a blocking bet or mid pair but he definitely could have a K

Personally after seeing how the hand played out I would put him on pocket 3s, K3 or even 9,3s. He is playing anything that looks good to him which could really be any suited cards. The 3 has obviously helped him in a way that he now thinks his hand is teh nutz which will be 2 pair or better.