$5 NLHE 6-max: river value bet

$5 NL HE 6-max: river value bet

no specific read on villain...


MP: $15.34
CO: $9.54
BTN: $5.89
SB: $2.34
Hero (BB): $12.63
UTG: $9.55

Pre Flop: ($0.13) Hero is BB with 9 7
1 fold, MP calls $0.05, 2 folds, SB calls $0.03, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.21) T 8 6 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.15, MP raises to $0.30, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.85, MP calls $0.55

Turn: ($1.91) J (2 players)
Hero bets $1.70, MP calls $1.70

River: ($5.31) K (2 players)

how much should I be betting at this point? do you think a push is the right move here?

His flop raise looks like a set, two pair, or overpair, maybe the nut fd, we want to extract as much as possible here. If a pure shove will work a small fraction of the time, say 15% to 20% of the time, it's worth it - and he may put you on the nut fd, so...

I generally prefer to overbet the pot slightly rather than shove, $5.40 or so - it looks bluffy and sometimes I'll get shoved over by villain - but that may not work at this limit.

Wtf, your bet sizing is so bad. How do you 3-bet the flop and not get all in by the river? You have to 3-bet this to at least $1.20 on the flop, if not more.

Also, I realize you're 200+ big blinds deep. I really think that's a bad idea when you're playing $5 NLHE. The deeper the stacks get, the more complicated the game gets. I'd prefer buying in 125bb's deep, tops.

i think a 3bet to 1,20 on the flop would reduce my river stack with about 0,7 unless I overbet the pot...

secondly, so if you double up you immediatly leave the table?

mrjohnson911 said:

i think a 3bet to 1,20 on the flop would reduce my river stack with about 0,7 unless I overbet the pot...

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The flop is the perfect place to over-bet. Its so drawy that almost nothing will fold, so bloat the pot while we can and over-raise the flop for enough that you can easily get your stack in by/before the river. When you flop the nuts with a redraw, we really really want to get the money in ASAP. This board is only going to get scarier, so get the money in now pronto! How much do you think villain is going to pay you off when a 9 rolls of the deck?

Bottomline: Raise flop big.

mrjohnson911 said:

secondly, so if you double up you immediatly leave the table?

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It depends. Playing 200bb's deep is a different ball game than 100bb's deep. I'm comfortable playing that deep against certain player types, but if you're playing $5NL, the best course of action is to leave the table when you have over 150bb's. Maybe you can stay if you're up against a super fish calling station type, but maniacs & aggressive fish can really suck to play against when you're super deep.

Besides, leaving the table when you're super deep isn't a big penalty, since there are usually so many tables with plenty of fish to choose from. And this only applies when you *and* another player are 150bb's+ deep. If you have a $12 stack, but everyone else has $7 or less, just go ahead and stay at the table, because your whole stack is unlikely to be at risk.