$25NL FR 1010 OOP against Mr. Spew

Richyl2008

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Villain here is 68/22/3.2 Opens 12% from MP, most of his raises have come from the cutoff and the blinds fwiw. 0% fold to 3bet 79% cbet flop and 100%cbet turn, 0% fold to cbet raise (although only 1 instance)

Whats the best plan of action here? If I decide to call the flop what's the plan for future streets, assuming he is most likely going to fire multiple barrels.
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party poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (SB): $36.15 (144.6 bb)
BB: $22.15 (88.6 bb)
UTG+2: $38.65 (154.6 bb)
MP1: $26.25 (105 bb)
MP2: $24.65 (98.6 bb)
MP3: $24.65 (98.6 bb)
CO: $9.50 (38 bb)
BTN: $33.25 (133 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with T
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T
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UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.25, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.15, BB folds

Flop: ($2.75) A
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A
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5
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $1.75, Hero ??
 
c9h13no3

c9h13no3

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Well we're obviously not folding, so its just two options:

1) C/R & play for stacks, hoping he'll stack with pairs lower than tens. C/R'ing also protects our hand from say KQ, which has 2 overs. He may also bluff shove once in a while.

2) Call & induce bluffs.

Since he's more than capable of bluffing, calling 2 streets seems good. There's some merit to check/raising, but without some history I think calling down is by far the best line.
 
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Agree in a cash game it's hard to fold here. I like the analysis above. I think I'd call the flop looking for a low card on the turn. If I got one I'd raise or bet the turn. I'd hate a KQ or J, and probably fold to a strong turn bet.
Rope a dope.
 
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I'm not sure I like our hand that much. The first defect of this kind of spewtards is that they overvalue Ax, so their raising range will contain a lot more aces then what we can expect from better players.
 
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I wouldn't go down with this hand. He's loose and aggressive, but his PFR range in this position isn't super loose. It's going to include a lot of aces. If he raises any ace and any pair, we're in bad shape. There are 115 hand combinations that beat us and only 42 that we beat (not counting case two tens for a tie). If maybe he doesn't raise the weakest aces and you add some KQ, KJ type hands into the mix, then it's a bit better and definitely worth at least calling. I'm either check-raising the flop and folding to further resistance, or I'm check-calling 1 or 2 streets. I'm not willing to check-call 3 streets nor am I willing to get it all in on the flop.
 
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... I'm either check-raising the flop and folding to further resistance, or I'm check-calling 1 or 2 streets. I'm not willing to check-call 3 streets nor am I willing to get it all in on the flop.

Maybe I misunderstood the original stats. I read it that this player always continued to cbet turn and always called a flop raise. If that is the case then I think you've got to decide early to push it hard or let it go entirely (and that just feels weak tight to me). At 22% pf raises - I think that includes a heck of a broader range than Ax or pair. Throw in any suited connector or 1 gapper and then think about your play.
 
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Maybe I misunderstood the original stats. I read it that this player always continued to cbet turn and always called a flop raise. If that is the case then I think you've got to decide early to push it hard or let it go entirely (and that just feels weak tight to me). At 22% pf raises - I think that includes a heck of a broader range than Ax or pair. Throw in any suited connector or 1 gapper and then think about your play.

I think the OP said that the villain was only 12% to open from his position. Ax and all pairs pretty much covers that range. I'm sure there would be some other hands, but I think it will still be heavy with hands that beat TT.

You're right about those stats. I kind of glossed over those. The turn c-bet stat seems kind of suspect, though. At 100%, I'm guessing that that's over a small number of hands. The call of c-bet raise stat was only for one hand, so I don't think you can rely on him never folding a pocket pair. Gotta be careful with some of the more specific stats. They're often over a sample size of only a few hands, which makes them nearly useless.
 
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I'm not sure I like our hand that much. The first defect of this kind of spewtards is that they overvalue Ax, so their raising range will contain a lot more aces then what we can expect from better players.

This makes sense to me. I'm not sure why we want to induce a bluff with tens against someone we read as a "spew tard" after a flop with 2 aces. I can easily put a player like that on ace, rag. I really think I would be very cautious here. I probably don't fold, but I don't think I'm raising or trying to induce a bluff either.
 
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I think the OP said that the villain was only 12% to open from his position.

Fair enough,,, i was looking at the overall raise stats. BTW, what poker client would the OP be using to give that granular level of stats?
 
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Fair enough,,, i was looking at the overall raise stats. BTW, what poker client would the OP be using to give that granular level of stats?

these stats are available in holdem manager.
 
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