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TCashMoney19
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Silver Level
Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 20/11/4
Before I go into any analysis, here's the hand with the players involved:
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
UTG: 113.5 BB (VPIP: 11.48, PFR: 1.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 61)
UTG+1: 68.5 BB (VPIP: 21.15, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
MP: 82 BB (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 47)
MP+1: 85.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
Hero (CO): 119 BB
BTN: 77.5 BB (VPIP: 19.57, PFR: 10.87, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 47)
SB: 65 BB (VPIP: 57.41, PFR: 3.70, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 55)
BB: 45.5 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 13)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qh Ah
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, SB calls 8.5 BB, BB calls 8 BB, Hero ?
So here's the situation. I'm opening in the CO with AQs, a premium in these positions, pretty standard. The BUT then 3bets me, and I've pegged him as a reg who knows his stuff and is capable of 3betting light for sure. If you notice his stats, he's got an almost 12% 3bet percentage over 50 hands. While this might not be a huge sample, I take this to mean that he's not always nutted when he 3bets.
Here's where things get interesting...we have two massive WHALES in the blinds, who both flat call. Take a look at their stats and you'll know what I mean, both are passive and have quite a high VPIP. So when it folds back to me, knowing that these two fish would most likely 4bet QQs+ and I even block queens and also knowing that the BUT player is a reg and under most circumstances could most likely be three betting me light here, what do you guys think is the correct play here pre? Also note that I had seen these two passive players do some goofy stuff preflop, so in my mind if I jam, I can definetly get called by a worse hand in the blinds, especially considering they're so short stacked? If I call, we'll have a little bit than 2 SPR pot and won't have much maneuvering capabilities post flop, as there will be around .70 in the pot if I call and effective stacks are roughly $1.30 at this point. So what's the play? Go 4 ways to the flop and if I miss, just check/fold? Or if I assume that button isn't always nutted here, could I jam and try to take down a huge pot pre (30+BBs) and potentially get called by a worse hand in the blinds? What's the verdict people and players of CardsChat?
Thanks!
-TCashMoney19
Before I go into any analysis, here's the hand with the players involved:
Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
UTG: 113.5 BB (VPIP: 11.48, PFR: 1.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 61)
UTG+1: 68.5 BB (VPIP: 21.15, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 52)
MP: 82 BB (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 8.70, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 47)
MP+1: 85.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
Hero (CO): 119 BB
BTN: 77.5 BB (VPIP: 19.57, PFR: 10.87, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 47)
SB: 65 BB (VPIP: 57.41, PFR: 3.70, 3Bet Preflop: 3.85, Hands: 55)
BB: 45.5 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 13)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Qh Ah
fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, SB calls 8.5 BB, BB calls 8 BB, Hero ?
So here's the situation. I'm opening in the CO with AQs, a premium in these positions, pretty standard. The BUT then 3bets me, and I've pegged him as a reg who knows his stuff and is capable of 3betting light for sure. If you notice his stats, he's got an almost 12% 3bet percentage over 50 hands. While this might not be a huge sample, I take this to mean that he's not always nutted when he 3bets.
Here's where things get interesting...we have two massive WHALES in the blinds, who both flat call. Take a look at their stats and you'll know what I mean, both are passive and have quite a high VPIP. So when it folds back to me, knowing that these two fish would most likely 4bet QQs+ and I even block queens and also knowing that the BUT player is a reg and under most circumstances could most likely be three betting me light here, what do you guys think is the correct play here pre? Also note that I had seen these two passive players do some goofy stuff preflop, so in my mind if I jam, I can definetly get called by a worse hand in the blinds, especially considering they're so short stacked? If I call, we'll have a little bit than 2 SPR pot and won't have much maneuvering capabilities post flop, as there will be around .70 in the pot if I call and effective stacks are roughly $1.30 at this point. So what's the play? Go 4 ways to the flop and if I miss, just check/fold? Or if I assume that button isn't always nutted here, could I jam and try to take down a huge pot pre (30+BBs) and potentially get called by a worse hand in the blinds? What's the verdict people and players of CardsChat?
Thanks!
-TCashMoney19