$2 NLHE Full Ring: Pot control on river with overpair on paired + possible flush board?

#1 January 24th, 2016, 6:21 PM

No exacts stats on villain (only 3 hands)

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$0.01/$0.02 Blinds No Limit Holdem - *** 24 01 2016 01:37:45
Table Iquique 9 Max (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: kupcovstas ( $2.23 )
Seat 3: Nakur ( $0.86 )
Seat 4: vulkanu ( $1.06 )
Seat 5: tramoia23 ( $5.66 )
Seat 6: fish1Todorov ( $2.35 )
Seat 7: EndersonR ( $0.38 )
Seat 9: godishere07 ( $1.82 )
Seat 10: TheArnie ( $2.10 )
EndersonR posts small blind [$0.01]
godishere07 posts big blind [$0.02]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheArnie [ Kh, Ks ]
TheArnie raises [$0.08]
kupcovstas calls [$0.08]
Nakur folds
vulkanu calls [$0.08]
tramoia23 calls [$0.08]
fish1Todorov folds
EndersonR folds
godishere07 folds
** Dealing flop ** [ 5d, 9s, Qd ]
TheArnie checks
I check with intent to raise and fold out drawing hands. Unfortunately, nobody bets.

kupcovstas checks
vulkanu checks
tramoia23 checks
** Dealing turn ** [ 7d ]
TheArnie bets [$0.25]
I bet because it seems like I have the best hand right now, and to hopefully fold out drawing hands and get value from Qx

kupcovstas calls [$0.25]
vulkanu folds
tramoia23 folds
** Dealing river ** [ 5c ]
TheArnie bets [$0.48]
I now beat all board based 2 pair. Should I have taken pot control line instead and bet less?

kupcovstas calls [$0.48]
** Summary **
TheArnie shows [ Kh, Ks ]
kupcovstas shows [ Ac, Ad ]
kupcovstas collected [ $1.70 ]

#2 January 24th, 2016, 6:44 PM

Bet flop. Ap its fine and thank villain for not stacking you

#3 January 24th, 2016, 8:33 PM

Originally Posted by IPlay

Bet flop. Ap its fine and thank villain for not stacking you

I was first to act. So you say I shouldn't have tried to checkraise and bet instantly? Because If'd have been re-raised after checkraise, it'd be much easier to find a fold.

And what Ap means?

#4 January 24th, 2016, 9:51 PM

Originally Posted by TheArnie

And what Ap means?

Ap = As played.

#5 January 24th, 2016, 11:07 PM

Just bet, its hard to check raise as the pre flop aggressor because we need someine to bet for us in a multiway pot when they dont have the initiative wich is unlikely. X/raising is also overplaying our one pair hand in a sense.

#6 January 25th, 2016, 1:14 AM

Yes, check-raising is overreping our hand. We should polarize our check-raising range to very strong hands or semi-bluffs/air that can give up once called. Also trying to "fold out drawing hands" is flawed fundamentals. We bet for value or as a bluff, not for "protection" or to fold out drawing hands. We want drawing hands to call. That's how we make money; we are getting a worse hand to call. We are betting for value. We have greater equity in the hand than they do. Getting sucked out on by draws is poker, but if we have the best hand we never want them to fold. Just don't pay them off once they start going raise happy.

As played, river bet is good. Almost all Qx are calling here.

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