$2 NLHE Full Ring: "Was this play okay?"

zam220

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#Game No : 1173197464
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 1173197464 *****
3,500/7,000 Blinds No Limit Holdem - ***
Tournament #160499404 Free 10 Max (real money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Kayehgee ( 97,172 )
Seat 2: jimmythedry ( 109,809 )
Seat 3: zam220 ( 96,189 )
Seat 4: fox6888 ( 16,910 )
Seat 5: Veligursky ( 102,680 )
Seat 6: Track62 ( 15,241 )
Seat 7: eronymos ( 2,906 )
Seat 9: bast888 ( 7,022 )
Seat 10: Nikeee17 ( 409,827 )
Veligursky posts ante [875]
Track62 posts ante [875]
Kayehgee posts ante [875]
jimmythedry posts ante [875]
Nikeee17 posts ante [875]
bast888 posts ante [875]
zam220 posts ante [875]
fox6888 posts ante [875]
eronymos posts ante [875]
zam220 posts small blind [3,500]
fox6888 posts big blind [7,000]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to zam220 [ Jc, Kd ]
Veligursky folds
Track62 folds
eronymos folds
bast888 folds
Nikeee17 raises [15,500]
Kayehgee calls [15,500]
jimmythedry folds
zam220 calls [12,000]
fox6888 raises [9,035]
Nikeee17 calls [535]
Kayehgee calls [535]
zam220 calls [535]
** Dealing flop ** [ Ks, 3d, 6d ]
zam220 bets [23,764]
Nikeee17 calls [23,764]
Kayehgee folds
** Dealing turn ** [ Th ]
zam220 bets [55,515]
Nikeee17 calls [55,515]
** Dealing river ** [ 8s ]
** Summary **
zam220 shows [ Jc, Kd ]
fox6888 shows [ Jh, 8c ]
Nikeee17 shows [ As, Ac ]
Nikeee17 collected [ 72,015 ]
Nikeee17 collected [ 158,558 ]

https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/3a1wxub4
 
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zam220 said:
#Game No : 1173197464
***** 888poker Hand History for Game 1173197464 *****
3,500/7,000 Blinds No Limit Holdem - ***
Tournament #160499404 Free 10 Max (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Kayehgee ( 97,172 )
Seat 2: jimmythedry ( 109,809 )
Seat 3: zam220 ( 96,189 )
Seat 4: fox6888 ( 16,910 )
Seat 5: Veligursky ( 102,680 )
Seat 6: Track62 ( 15,241 )
Seat 7: eronymos ( 2,906 )
Seat 9: bast888 ( 7,022 )
Seat 10: Nikeee17 ( 409,827 )
Veligursky posts ante [875]
Track62 posts ante [875]
Kayehgee posts ante [875]
jimmythedry posts ante [875]
Nikeee17 posts ante [875]
bast888 posts ante [875]
zam220 posts ante [875]
fox6888 posts ante [875]
eronymos posts ante [875]
zam220 posts small blind [3,500]
fox6888 posts big blind [7,000]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to zam220 [ Jc, Kd ]
Veligursky folds
Track62 folds
eronymos folds
bast888 folds
Nikeee17 raises [15,500]
Kayehgee calls [15,500]
jimmythedry folds
zam220 calls [12,000]
fox6888 raises [9,035]
Nikeee17 calls [535]
Kayehgee calls [535]
zam220 calls [535]
** Dealing flop ** [ Ks, 3d, 6d ]
zam220 bets [23,764]
Nikeee17 calls [23,764]
Kayehgee folds
** Dealing turn ** [ Th ]
zam220 bets [55,515]
Nikeee17 calls [55,515]
** Dealing river ** [ 8s ]
** Summary **
zam220 shows [ Jc, Kd ]
fox6888 shows [ Jh, 8c ]
Nikeee17 shows [ As, Ac ]
Nikeee17 collected [ 72,015 ]
Nikeee17 collected [ 158,558 ]

https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/3a1wxub4
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I believe you should try to post the hand into Tournament Hand Analysis.
One thing I can say: we don't flat very often from the SB when playing Cash Games, I have no ideia about MTTs or SNGs.

And once we flat from the SB with a dominated hand, after someone had raised behind us, we cannot simply try to represent anything postflop, because the raisor can still has better hands than us, such as KQ, AK and KK and AA.

Summarizing: what would ever happen if you would have folded from the SB instead of flatting preflop and jeopardizing your tournament? ;)

Anyway, I strongly suggest for you to post this hand into tournament analysis session, because for my own part, I suck very much when it comes to playing tourneys. :p:D:)

Regards;

Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa
 
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I'm finding it really hard to read the hand in this format. But I will do my best.

So it looks like you are starting the hand with around 14bb. At this depth, we are mainly in shove/fold territory. We really do not want to have any open-fold hands. We should mainly look to shove for max fold equity, and try to acquire chips.

When someone opens in front of us, we wan't to really tighten our range. In this instance, KJo is simply far too weak to be getting involved. 100% you should be folding this hand pre-flop.

As played, when you hit top pair, you are never folding. You could either jam flop, check-jam, or bet small and jam the turn. But you are never getting away. The mistake was made pre-flop, getting involved with a very poor hand. I'd recommend looking up shove/fold charts online and not deviating from them until you are a more experienced player.
 
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Alright, I have tried to clean this up to make it easier to read. I turning stacks into big blinds, and rounded to one decimal place. The numbers may not add up exactly, because of the rounding. But, the values are close enough.

Tournament 3,500/7,000 875 ante NLHE
Players : 9

CO -- 13.9bb M: 5.3
BTN -- 15.7bb M: 6.0
SB [Hero] -- 13.7bb M: 5.2
BB -- 2.4bb M: 0.9
UTG -- 14.7bb M: 5.6
UTG+1 -- 2.1bb M: 0.8
MP -- 0.4bb M: 0.2
MP+1 -- 1bb M: 0.4
HJ -- 58.5bb M: 22.3

SB posts 0.5bb, BB posts 1bb

Hero is dealt: :jc4::kd4:

Pot: 2.6bb

4 folds, HJ raises to 2.2bb, CO calls 2.2bb, 1 fold, Hero calls 1.7bb, BB raises all-in to 2.3bb, HJ calls 0.1bb, CO calls 0.1bb, Hero calls 0.1bb.

Flop: :ks4: :3d4: :6d4: Pot: 10.3bb (1 player all-in)

Hero bets all-in 3.4bb, HJ calls 3.4bb, 1 fold

Turn: :ks4: :3d4: :6d4: :10h4: Pot: 17.4bb (2 players all-in)

River: :ks4: :3d4: :6d4: :10h4: :8s4: Pot: 17.4bb (2 players all-in)

I think the HJ could be opening a fairly wide range here, but KJ would still be a very marginal hand when considering the gap theory. But, when the CO calls, I think our hand drops way down in value. One player could be fooling around, but when you have a raise and a caller the chances are at least one of them has a real hand. We can't squeeze here by shoving, because our stack is too short and we have no fold equity. On top of that, the BB is likely committed here a lot and we'd probably see this flop 3 ways. We're easily in very bad shape.

This is a pretty clear fold.
 
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Use a converter... and post in the correct threads.
 
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