$2 NLHE Full Ring: KQos on LP-TP facing reraise on flop from the BT

PokerStars - $0.02 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

vilain stats: 38/23/8 over 52 hands

BTN: $1.98
SB: $1.00
BB: $3.01
UTG: $1.65
UTG+1: $2.19
MP: $1.43
MP+1: $2.07
Hero (LP): $2.03
CO: $2.16

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K:spade: Q:club:

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, fold, BTN calls $0.06, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.15, 2 players) 3:club: 5:club: K:heart:
Hero bets $0.10, BTN raises to $0.44,Hero???

how would you play that hand? what would you do on the flop?

Without reads I fold.

Whats his 3bet %?

If he 3bets AK then we only fear 6 combos of set within a very wide range. I call the flop for sure probably call brick turns.

ScottishMatt said:

Without reads I fold.

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SAYYYYYY WWWHAT?///????

38/23... guy is splashing around like crazy. I'd min 3-bet the flop, hope he shoves, but if he doesn't then shove the turn.

Lol isnt it great when you post a hand and the 3 replies you get are raise, fold and call

Sorry, I didn't see his stats. Still this is the micros and people very rarely go crazy postflop. I suppose GII might not be terrible, but I'm still not sure relying on VPIP/PFR solely is a good idea in order to make a postflop decision.

Almost every fishy player here at the micros is going to be passive. For every 30 loose passives I run into there is only about 1 aggrofish. Aggression just isn't how they play at these limits. That along with the fact that this is ZOOM makes it less likely villain is going to spazz.

So although I didn't take his stats into consideration, I don't think they are telling enough to direct us to the right route here.

Deco said:

Whats his 3bet %?

If he 3bets AK then we only fear 6 combos of set within a very wide range. I call the flop for sure probably call brick turns.

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I agree with this^^

I call the flop and fold on the turn.

call and shove turn regardless of what comes out.

ScottishMatt said:

Sorry, I didn't see his stats. Still this is the micros and people very rarely go crazy postflop. I suppose GII might not be terrible, but I'm still not sure relying on VPIP/PFR solely is a good idea in order to make a postflop decision.

Almost every fishy player here at the micros is going to be passive. For every 30 loose passives I run into there is only about 1 aggrofish. Aggression just isn't how they play at these limits. That along with the fact that this is ZOOM makes it less likely villain is going to spazz.

So although I didn't take his stats into consideration, I don't think they are telling enough to direct us to the right route here.

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I'd agree with your statement in general, but this guy is playing 38% of his hands, and is 3-betting 8%. It's not just a matter of whether he's aggressive or not post flop, his range is wide enough that he can be doing this for value with worse, and we want to look to get it in now. I don't mind calling, but being out of position, I'd prefer to get it in now versus his entire range.

Main thing which concerns me with 3betting is that when we don't hold an ace most flush draws willing to get it in will have 12outs and AK cannot be ruled out. That and we lose villains air. I can't see our equity being that great, sure a player like this will have a more merged raising range but I feel his sizing polarizes it somewhat more than normal.

ScottieDuncan said:

I call the flop and fold on the turn.

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That would be the worst way to play it for me.

Deco said:

Main thing which concerns me with 3betting is that when we don't hold an ace most flush draws willing to get it in will have 12outs and AK cannot be ruled out. That and we lose villains air. I can't see our equity being that great, sure a player like this will have a more merged raising range but I feel his sizing polarizes it somewhat more than normal.

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Mmm... we probably have well over 60% equity versus his value range. Maybe as high as 65+ if we heavily discount AK. So do opponents at these stakes continue with their air range after they are called? People are saying in here they are passive, which seems to make sense. I think if I were coaching someone when they are learning this spot out of position, I'd want them to get it in versus their value range. It makes the hand a bit easier to play.

If we think opponents will continue with their air range after they are called, then I'd prefer to call the flop raise and check/call turn. I'm just not sure that makes sense though given stakes and opponent honestly.

Result

PokerStars - $0.02 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $1.98
SB: $1.00
BB: $3.01
UTG: $1.65
UTG+1: $2.19
MP: $1.43
MP+1: $2.07
Hero (LP): $2.03
CO: $2.16

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K:spade: Q:club:

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.06, fold, BTN calls $0.06, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.15, 2 players) 3:club: 5:club: K:heart:
Hero bets $0.10, BTN raises to $0.44, Hero raises to $1.97 and is all-in, BTN calls $1.48 and is all-in

Turn: ($3.99, 2 players) 2:diamond:

River: ($3.99, 2 players) 6:spade:

Hero shows K:spade: Q:club: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 69%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
BTN shows 9:diamond: K:diamond: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 31%, Flop 13%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins $3.85

Lol