This is a discussion on $2 NLHE Full Ring: KK vs 4bet pre from a regchump. within the online poker forums, in the Cash Game Hand Analysis section; Guys tough spot for me today.
Villain open-raises 4x UTG, I 3bet him 3x UTG+1, folded to him and he 4bets 2.4x me. I thought a
I'll be honest I'm all in pre flop. In these situations if you run into AA so be it.
You also only have 28 hands on villain so the stats don't mean much, but at 21/14 villain doesn't seem to be a nit, so on the flop I'd still be looking to get it all in. You are as likely to run into AK and QQ in these spots as you are AA.
8th January 2018, 12:48 AM
How is this a tough spot ? You have the second best hand in NLHE.
I 5bet shove here against a random player. Going all in preflop with KK in a heads up situation in a cash game is never a mistake.
When you're over 200bb deep and have over 1000 hands played with villain you might start thinking about folding kings in this situation if he's a gigantic nit.
When I'm facing 4bets/5bets from nitty players UTG and I'm holding KK and I'm also getting a bit paranoid but this is poker. Of course you need to make really big laydowns sometimes but I often see players fold the second nuts just because they think a big reraise can be nothing else than the nuts. You should focus more on maximizing your winnings than minimizing your losses.
9th January 2018, 12:19 AM
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re: Poker & $2 NLHE Full Ring: KK vs 4bet pre from a regchump.
idk, I might fold here just cause I run bad though haha, no seriously I call unless it's a ridiculous pot size. or at least reraise is raise to see where im at.
9th January 2018, 4:12 AM
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A lot of details were missing, most importantly how deep were you. looks like there were ~90 BBs in the pot, half of that yours when you called. Even if you started 200 BBs deep you can't just call. You'll be calling 150BB to win 240BB if he shoves. Unless you can put Villain on EXACTLY AA you can't fold.
I 5 bet shove pre. If he has AA so be it. As played I shove to the raise.