$10 NLHE 6-max: Trapped by higher flush, where did I go wrong ?

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 20.51/7.69/33.33

6 max, there were some real donkey plays, so I was trying to be real careful. This is the hand that took the last of my bankroll. I was trying to be very careful, clearly miscalculated.

Constructive criticism ?


PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 110.8 BB
MP: 235.2 BB (VPIP: 58.62, PFR: 41.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 29)
CO: 110.8 BB (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 7.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
BTN: 25.5 BB (VPIP: 56.25, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 18)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
BB: 4.1 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 14)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J:diamond: Q:diamond:

Hero raises to 4 BB, MP calls 4 BB, CO calls 4 BB, BTN calls 4 BB, fold, BB calls 3 BB

Flop: (20.5 BB, 5 players) 4:diamond: 5:club: 3:diamond:
BB bets 0.1 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 0.1 BB, MP raises to 10 BB, CO calls 10 BB, fold, Hero calls 9.9 BB

Turn: (50.6 BB, 4 players) 8:diamond:
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets 36 BB, Hero calls 36 BB, fold

River: (122.6 BB, 3 players) Q:heart:
Hero bets 60.8 BB and is all-in, CO calls 60.8 BB and is all-in

Hero shows J:diamond: Q:diamond: (Flush, Queen High) (Pre 38%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
CO shows 9:diamond: A:diamond: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 39%, Flop 27%, Turn 100%)
BB mucks 2:diamond: 6:club: (Straight, Six High) (Pre 22%, Flop 73%, Turn 0%)
CO wins 233.2 BB

Check-shove the turn.

Raise the flop. As played, your opponent looks a little nitty, so I think your line is fine. C/C and jam river.

First of all, don't play with all your bank, it would be better to have 5 buyins at NL2. Second, stats are useless, since you played little amount of hands against the other players. the hand itself was played ok, it was just a cooler, nothing to do. It is imposible to be a winning player if you only end going all in with nuts. you had the 3rd nut hand, everyone would have lost.

It seems like the careful way to play this hand would be to fold pre-. I'm not saying that I object to opening QJs utg, but rather that folding isn't bad either.

Once you do open, any reasonable line you take leads to the same result.

enesem said:

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 20.51/7.69/33.33

6 max, there were some real donkey plays, so I was trying to be real careful. This is the hand that took the last of my bankroll. I was trying to be very careful, clearly miscalculated.

Constructive criticism ?


PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 110.8 BB
MP: 235.2 BB (VPIP: 58.62, PFR: 41.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 29)
CO: 110.8 BB (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 7.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
BTN: 25.5 BB (VPIP: 56.25, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 18)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
BB: 4.1 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 14)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♦ Q♦

Hero raises to 4 BB, MP calls 4 BB, CO calls 4 BB, BTN calls 4 BB, fold, BB calls 3 BB

Flop: (20.5 BB, 5 players) 4♦ 5♣ 3♦
BB bets 0.1 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 0.1 BB, MP raises to 10 BB, CO calls 10 BB, fold, Hero calls 9.9 BB

Turn: (50.6 BB, 4 players) 8♦
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets 36 BB, Hero calls 36 BB, fold

River: (122.6 BB, 3 players) Q♥
Hero bets 60.8 BB and is all-in, CO calls 60.8 BB and is all-in

Hero shows J♦ Q♦ (Flush, Queen High) (Pre 38%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
CO shows 9♦ A♦ (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 39%, Flop 27%, Turn 100%)
BB mucks 2♦ 6♣ (Straight, Six High) (Pre 22%, Flop 73%, Turn 0%)
CO wins 233.2 BB

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First. Variance happens. Second. Because variance happens you lost all of your BR during bad BR management.

Arjonius said:

It seems like the careful way to play this hand would be to fold pre-. I'm not saying that I object to opening QJs utg, but rather that folding isn't bad either.

Once you do open, any reasonable line you take leads to the same result.

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Actually it is my opinion too that is the right way to play. Fold. ABC poker advise KQ the minimum hand to play from UTG . Maybe KJs if there are not any hard 3-bettors along the way. As you go past the noob phase and have some knowledge about the postflop play you can open up a little if there are really bad players in the blinds but this was not the case because one of them has 4BBs and one of them is an unknown.

raise the micro shove otf and isolate your equity in the pot, it is such a small amount that it effectively becomes just like a cbet

Bad luck, its just a cooler, you played it fine
I would say bear in mind when you play JQ (or any suited connector) you really want to make a straight rather than the flush as its much more likely to be both the nut hand and better concealed.
Flushes are so obvious on the board that if all the money goes in you just have to hope they don't have the nut flush but often they will.