Originally Posted by Xmaster
888 Poker - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4 (http://www.pokertracker.com)
SB: 119.8 BB (VPIP: 29.27, PFR: 19.51, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 45)
Hero (BB): 157.3 BB
UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 35.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
MP: 70.8 BB (VPIP: 28.26, PFR: 28.26, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 49)
CO: 99.5 BB (VPIP: 22.66, PFR: 13.73, 3Bet Preflop: 6.32, Hands: 262)
BTN: 95.7 BB (VPIP: 12.77, PFR: 6.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 50)
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8<font color='red'>♦</font> A<font color='red'>♦</font>
fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, CO calls 9 BB
Flop: (24.5 BB, 2 players) 3<font color='red'>♥</font> A<font color='black'>♣</font> Q<font color='red'>♦</font>
Hero bets 10 BB, CO calls 10 BB
Turn: (44.5 BB, 2 players) J<font color='red'>♦</font>
Hero checks, CO bets 25 BB, Hero calls 25 BB
River: (94.5 BB, 2 players) 6<font color='red'>♥</font>
Hero checks, CO bets 52.5 BB, fold
CO wins 89.8 BB
He foldet to 3bets 11 out of 11..Thoughts? Thank you guys
Well, if he folded to 11 3b, he probably has it this time, or he's frustrated and tired of your aggression.
There a few ways to think about it here.... we can just defend with Ad-8d if we want. We don't have to 3b here. It's tough to play OOP.
However, as played, I think turn call is only OK if you know he will pay off on the river, if you hit flush. Cause the price you are getting laid is slightly under 3 to 1. You need 4 to 1 for break even, if he doesn't pay off. He probably pays off something. Like at least another 30 or 40 BB?
My official input is to just defend. Just call pre. We bloated this pot, and he probably has an ace that beats us, or QQ (cause he's probably strong given your 3b reads).
See, if we just call pre, then we C/C the flop, if he checks back turn, we know we probably have him.... and for a lot less than we have stuck in this pot as is. Plus, we give V a chance to get away twice, preflop and on the flop. He's still in there though.
I don't see the need to 3b here.