who suffers from 'withdrawal' symptom

Everytime I withdrawal money from poker I go on a very bad run that almost takes my bankroll away. I been playing for almost a year now and this never fails. It makes you think why this happens but cant find an explanation. It makes me want to build a really big bankroll before I take money out b/c I know what follows . I start thinking the poker sites you play at maybe have something to do with it but it doesnt make any sense. You guys experience this also?

Well I have only cashed once and it did not have an effect on my game, as well it shouldn't. There obviously should be no connection unless it was purely mental, (as long as you're staying in your BR limits).

My suggestion would be to examine your hands after your cash-outs, do you play differently, maybe cashing gives your sub-conscious a bit of a boost in confidence and you play more loosely.?. Just a suggestion.

Nitram I agrre with you. Every time I have cashed out from any poker site leaving me enough to start over again, it seems that I'm always on a losing streak after that. This has happened not once not twice but every time. Think we're just paranoid or the sites really out to get you for wanting your money back.

Doesn't this sound a lot like the pokerbot argument... I would have to go with the paranoia aspect.

THere is the phenomena of winner's tilt. A solid game is about having lots of things in balance. Confidence, caution, aggression, passivity etc etc etc..

After a cashout it is easy to relax a bit and knock your winning balance out of kilter one way or another. There's also the fact that bad runs happen and it may just be coincidence.

When you cash-out, do you by any chance still play the same limits as before? But now you're playing them with a much smaller bankroll?

What Nitram is describing is indeed common, but only because the risk of ruin has increased because of playing limits much larger relative to your bankroll, not because there's a "punish this player" flag set by the poker site.

You just need to play badly as I do and you won't have to worry about cashing out.

southernstyle said:

Doesn't this sound a lot like the pokerbot argument....

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Ok...lol...that's IT!!! I'm gonna write one of those bad boys just to PROVE it can be done!!!!

southernstyle said:

I would have to go with the paranoia aspect.

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I kinda suspect I "loosen up" because I already HAVE my money out...and want more, more, more

Actually, it's usually no worse than any of my other down turns...nor any longer in length...just a lot more visible when it's a higher % of total bankroll left

troderick said:

You just need to play badly as I do and you won't have to worry about cashing out.

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LOL....yep...that works too! Been there, done that!

PokerPete said:

Actually, it's usually no worse than any of my other down turns...nor any longer in length...just a lot more visible when it's a higher % of total bankroll left

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'Zactly.

Guys, what I am going to tell you it's true and happens to me last night.
And I want a logical reply, but not from the administrator or other poker site representatives...
I'm not telling you the site, because doesn't matter... I think all sites do the same...
Last night I played for about 2 hours at a single table and the best winning hands were a pair, two pairs and rarely 3 of a kind. I saw winners even with high card !!!
OK til now, but.... there is a "but".... and I think anytime at any poker site there is a "but"... because I decide to withdraw $100.
MISTAKE!!! Very big mistake dears, because from that moment teh whole situation was changed.
The first 3-4 hands was folded. Next one I catch a flush with K high card, just from the flop! YUPPI I said! ALL IN! knowing the history of the table... same table, same guys...
Surprise!, my neighbour call and go all in too... but the sursprise was at the river when he show a flush with "A" high card... "Hmmm, I am not enough concentrate!" I said... I reload with my last $ and after another 3-4 folded hands came the bigest surprise:
me, Full House, all in! and the neighbour (the same one) 4 of a kind! and leave the table...
Same table, same guys, playing for 2 hours, winning hands with 1 or 2 pairs and suddenly 2 flushes at the same hand and after 2 minutes full house and 4 of kind ?
Miracle? No, dears! I was punished, because I dare to withdraw my winnings! That's the naked true, whatever will reply the specialists and the poker sites representatives.
Imagine if they will recognize that... the entire bussiness is gone!
Now I ask me how I must proceed when I want to withdraw?... I think the solution is leaving the table and the site too, after the withdraw, and playing for 2-3 days at other sites... maybe this way they loose your trail... and forget your "impertinence"...

Clanta, i couldn't help read your post a chuckle. Not in a mean way, but simply the fact that you think you got screwed because you cashed out. Sites randomly give out cards, the chance of what happened to you happening again is very likely. I know you have had a long cold streak and suddenly hit is big, did you complain then? No because you were winning, now once you loose for once you have to complain. Just remember that every bad beat will end eventually and ever hot streak will hit a bad beat.

For me to believe that there's a "doom switch" being toggled whenever someone withdraws, I'd need to first be told what the pokerrooms' motive to have one would be.

I hope everyone agrees that if there's no incentive or motive, then no clinically sane poker site would have such a switch. Right?

Why would, for instance, poker stars have such a switch? What do they gain from it?

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For me to believe that there's a "doom switch" being toggled whenever someone withdraws, I'd need to first be told what the pokerrooms' motive to have one would be.

I hope everyone agrees that if there's no incentive or motive, then no clinically sane poker site would have such a switch. Right?

Why would, for instance, Poker Stars have such a switch? What do they gain from it?

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You depositing back what you withdrew.

... and they end up having to pay neteller another $1.50 or whatever for transferring it back. So that doesn't really work out for them.

(I know you're kidding BBB, but not everyone may realize that)

they use to call that doom switch

everytime when you whitdraw, it will hapen acctually most of the time will happen

We need a doom switch for "it's rigged" threads.

me too

This happens to me too. However, I know that it is not the site out for revenge.

Pretty sure it's because I get used to, and like seeing, that pretty nice br and i'm trying to get it back up there and playing badly.

Poker sites have no reason to do this. They make their money off the rake and tournament entry fees. They do not use your br for maintenance or anything else profitable.

I have noticed a connection with cashing out and losing cards. But the reason is not a rigged site its me. Think of it this way every time a person makes money gambling you are happy and dont care about saving. You go blow it. Its human nature. This goes for cashing out also. Your happy and felling unstoppable. A hand that normally you would not see as a safe play is now a winner so you go for it and it gets nailed. Your mad and your play gets worse. This happens even in live games.