Turbo Tournaments

Yep, I play almost strictly turbo STTs. It's not that they take the skill out of the game, it's just that they take a lot of the post-flop play out.

Just a different skill set required to beat em. I personally play them because at the stakes I play, it's not worth it for me to play full-length STTs since my hourly rate goes way down.

ChuckTs said:

Yep, I play almost strictly turbo STTs. It's not that they take the skill out of the game, it's just that they take a lot of the post-flop play out.

Just a different skill set required to beat em. I personally play them because at the stakes I play, it's not worth it for me to play full-length STTs since my hourly rate goes way down.

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Explain your strategy..please

ChuckTs said:

Yep, I play almost strictly turbo STTs. It's not that they take the skill out of the game, it's just that they take a lot of the post-flop play out.

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NOW I see why your suggestion in hand analysis is usually "SHOVE".

I hate them as my major asset in poker is patience and in turbos that is the least important asset. Hence I have a minus ROI in turbos but a plus in standard MTTs.

I'm sure they can be profitable though if I knew how to play them. It would improve my game for sure. I think a few pros like to play turbos so they must have some merit

turok64 said:

Explain your strategy..please

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My strategy is exactly the same as the widely-known normal-paced STT strategy: playing TAG early and getting progressively more LAG as the game goes on.

The only difference is that you get shortstacked quicker, and are forced to make more PF shoves as opposed to raises when you steal blinds. Variance does increase some, but for me it's much more worth it considering how much quicker the games end.

ChuckTs said:

Yep, I play almost strictly turbo STTs. It's not that they take the skill out of the game, it's just that they take a lot of the post-flop play out.

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well, he said they take "a lot" of the skill out of the game, which i think is completely true

You know what, I'm not even going to argue with you combu - the last time I played a regular-speed STT was literally a year or so ago :/

I will say that they are very beatable though.

they're definitely beatable, i agree. i mean, i can beat tons of people at tic-tac-toe, too, but the ones who know the "system" so to speak, we're just going to break even. i find them largely formulaic. not that i think regular-speed STTs are an incredibly skillful form of poker either, there's just comparatively more time to play and not just following the shove formula. i personally don't think either of them come close to needing the amount of skill required to do well in cash games or MTTs over a very large sample. that's coming from someone who's played and succeeded more in STTs than anything else over my poker "career".

I love turbos, ive made... $400 from them in past 2 days. They are like 90% of my income

I used to play turbo STTs a ton (something like 25% ROI over ~600 games), but have tried all the other options as well. I would say that most of my income came from turbo STTs, just because you can play so many, so quicky, and win enough of them to profit fairly well. The 2nd most profit came from a stretch of limit 6max where I made something ridiculous like 300BBs in four days and started on a downswing and quit and withdrew the winnings. I tried doing MTTs fairly recently but have had no time to actually play entire ones, so most of my profit now is coming from micro stakes HU SNGs that I have been tearing up for the last few days.