Once again, it proves how big the luck factor can be . It also proves how a player can do the exact WRONG play, and with good luck, become the big winner.
...I've said it before and I'll say it again: luck is a factor in poker, especially in MTTs. There is no arguing that. However, if we're thinking in terms of short term vs long term, luck predominate the short term game while skill predominates the long term.
While more skilled players will do better than average players, no MTT is ever won without a bit of luck. It doesn't matter how good you are, a player will make mistakes sometimes because no one is perfect or ever makes the right decision 100% of the time. Do they need a bit a luck to get ahead in these situations? Sure, but if their hand has any equity, no matter how small it may be, it'll happen. I can agree that it was lucky for Moneymaker to hit the 8 at that moment, but with 8% equity to hit on the turn or river, it's going to happen eventually. Sucks for Brenes that it happened at that moment, but that's how the game goes.
He did the wrong thing, at the right time and lady luck gave him 1 of his only 2 outs . He could not win with a straight draw or flush draw. Moneymaker basically put his tourney life at risk, making the worst move you can in NL hold em...getting it all in with a 2 outer and no back door draws. If moneymaker loses this hand, which he played so poorly [ and shoulda lost} he woulda not been a millionaire or a household name.
...It's one thing to see how the hand was played out, but we don't know the history between the 2 player.
In the video, we hear that Moneymaker and Brenes had been clashing a few times in pots and Brenes is known to be a very aggressive player. The point is, we don't know what is going on between both players or how past hands played out. Also, Brenes is really aggressive, plays a wide range and it's possible he had been pushing Moneymaker (a newcomer) around in a few pots and MM decided to take a stand. Of course, he picked a pretty bad spot, but sometimes that's what it takes.
MTTs is about making decisions and sometimes players make the wrong ones. I've done this many times and I'm sure plenty of other MTT players have done so as well. Once again, no one ever makes the correct decisions 100% of the time. I don't, you don't. As long as your making more correct decisions > wrong decisions, you're good.
Ironically...if he had folded the hand , and played it PROPERLY, theres still a chance he would have not been a millionaire or household name, because he would not have won this huge pot with his miracle 2 outer hit. In other words, Moneymaker had to make this terrible play , and get extradorinarily lucky, in order to increase his chip stack and go to the final table.
...What is proper poker? Is proper poker how you expect others to play? Because you can just drop that idea. Play how you wish, but don't think or expect others to play how you would/you want them to.
It's easy to see that MM should've folded because HB had AA because we can see the hand, but put yourself in MM shoes. You don't know what he have. You just know that HB is aggressive, has been pushing you around, C-betting a lot of flops, and you've been giving up a lot of pots to HB. So, now you're down in chips and now you have 2 choices: fold and give up a ton of chips and allow this player to push you around more or you can pick a spot to take a stand and play back at them.
He even admits in the hand, that he " knows hes in trouble' . My friends, this is just another piece of evidence of the luck factor. Getting it all in , and admitting you made the worse play possible..and still winning.
...Evidence? LOL.
MM just said because he knew he got making a play, that's all. HB doesn't always have AA there, or a K, or a draw. As an aggressive player, he would have a wide range of hands that would c-bet/fold to that flop.
Welcome to NL hold em .