The doom switch

#1 December 14th, 2007, 8:04 PM

This happened to a friend of mine and you have to wonder,is it rigged?This is a long post but a very good read.Read it and I promise you it will not be a waste of your time:

This is no BS, indisputable proof that the so called alleged "doom switch" really exists. I always thought I was just a bad player, once in a while getting lucky; but I really thought practice was the key. Boy was I wrong, I never thought I'd admit it, but I was down a few thousand from playing on pokerstars, and was down to my last $100 when desperation set in. Man was I desperate. I started eating dogfood in between SNG's, just because it's so damn cheap, and besides, Rocky was getting fat anyway. So as a last resort, I decided to write pokerstars a mildly threatening letter-

Dear Pokerstars,
Hi, I'm a fairly consistent losing player on your site. For some reason, whenever I go all in preflop, I lose usually 2/3 of the time. I used to to think it was just my play, but the more I watch the pro's on TV, their Ace is always good. So I started narrowing down my all-in preflop hands to only suited cards with an ace kicker, because that's what the pro's are doing. Still no luck, it seemed I was losing even more playing this way. I stopped paying my internet access bill because I was down about $4400 in 3 weeks, just from playing at your site. I don't know why, but something about that just struck me as odd, because people that gamble in real casinos do usually win about at least 1/2 the time.

So I did some reading up on online poker on the internet (I was forced to steal my neighbors wireless connection to get online because I had no money left). I heard about something called variation, but that couldn't be the case because I variate my play, and the 2 cards I usually push in on varies by the hand. So I kept reading, until I heard about something called the "doom switch", also known as the "cash out curse". Seemed like the only logical way I could be losing so much was if you had me on a high difficulty level. The only issue is is that I never yet cashed-out, so why would you put the curse on me?

I've been patient until now, but I've finally reached my wit's end. If you don't change my difficulty level to something easier, and I mean RIGHT AWAY, I'll have no choice but to either:
a)stop playing online poker altogether,
or,
b)join a more reputable site such as jetset poker

Just because I'm in the US doesn't mean you can take advantage of me.

Sincerely & angrily yours,
raisebot
Andrew xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
(702) xxx-xxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com

Within 2 hours, I got the following reply:
****

Dear raisebot,

We here at PokerStars sincerely regret your unfortunate experience playing at our cardroom.

I personally checked with our tech dept, and mistakenly your account was set on T16 level, which is normally reserved for people that have already made a withdrawal. Initial deposit level is T01, where bad beats happen less 9/10's less often. We can see that you are a good and dedicated player, therefore, to keep you playing at PokerStars, I personally set your level at T00, where I can promise you a bad beat will not happen again within the next 2 (two) weeks from today. After that time, I have no choice but to raise your difficulty level from T00 to T05, which is basically a "break-even" level.

I assure you that even though you are in the USA and have a douchebag for pathetic excuse of a president, that does not influence our decisions in determining a player's current difficulty level.

I hope this is a satisfactory resolution for you; and hope that you will continue to show your support for PokerStars. If you have any further inquiries or questions, do not hesitate to contact me personally.

I have also credited your account with an additional 150 FPP's, which can be used to purchase merchandise and enter freerolls through our VIP store.

Yours truly,
Susan xxxxxxxxx
PokerStars Support
***********

Sounding too good to be true, I entered a SNG, with the sole intention of going all in to see if she was being truthful or not. The following result speaks for itself- The doom switch

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#2 December 14th, 2007, 8:12 PM

Classic

#3 December 14th, 2007, 8:19 PM

Thanks for posting this. Can you PM me with the name of the support person he received his response from?

#4 December 14th, 2007, 8:24 PM

I can understand if this is a joke. A very lenghty and worthwhile one btw. The doom switch

But, then again, I can't help but be very gullible and wonder if these are actual emails? lol

#5 December 14th, 2007, 8:35 PM

Lol you got me pretty good there.

#6 December 14th, 2007, 8:37 PM

Let me assure you this is not a joke. I've already been in touch with Susan Xxxxxxxxx (her actual last name is Xxxxxxxxx BTW) and I've been assured that I'll be at T00 by tonight. I can't wait. Woot!

#7 December 14th, 2007, 8:40 PM

yeash this has to be a joke, the T levels that pokerstars sets you at lmao...anyways good one and if you are losing all that monery and having to steal wireless since you cant afford internet(if that was true) you may want to let poker go or play freerolls dont gamble more than you cab afford...but im sure your just playing...oh yeah the hand history is sick very nice

#8 December 14th, 2007, 8:40 PM

thanks for the info. i once called bodog andtold them i wasn't going to play on their site any more and they gave me $20.00 in my cash account, to get me to keep playing there.

#9 December 14th, 2007, 8:43 PM

Originally Posted by WVHillbilly

Let me assure you this is not a joke. I've already been in touch with Susan Xxxxxxxxx (her actual last name is Xxxxxxxxx BTW) and I've been assured that I'll be at T00 by tonight. I can't wait. Woot!

yeah i actualy used some PS points to get down to T-05 no bad beats and allcashes in tourneys the ony thing i ran into was that my straight flush got beat by a royal but that was nothing..

#10 December 14th, 2007, 8:46 PM

If you get SuperNova Elite without ever cashing out you get T-09 its rumoured.

#11 December 14th, 2007, 9:31 PM

Originally Posted by concret817

thanks for the info. i once called bodog andtold them i wasn't going to play on their site any more and they gave me $20.00 in my cash account, to get me to keep playing there.

i tried thisd with FT and this is what they sent me
i pretty much said i would not be playing because of bad beats lkol which i wa s lying but yeah

Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker Support.

I am sorry that poker has not been going as well as you would like.
Unfortunately, it is human nature to focus on the negative, and not on
the positive events. Further aggravating this phenomenon is the fact
that while a player will remember almost every instance that his or her
hand gets outdrawn, the player is much less likely to notice when his or
her hand holds up or when the player is the one that outdrew the
opponent. This is largely because a player is much less likely to know
when they got lucky because in those instances, very often the loser of
the hand will quietly muck his/her cards, and in some cases such as an
opponent?s draw missing, the winning player will never know this fact.

There are many reasons that a player may feel that they are unluckier
than others, but please be assured that the shuffle is random, and cards
are distributed fairly. It is just that perceptions play such a large
role in how one reacts to certain events.

I realize that this may not necessarily make you feel better, but rest
assured that everybody experiences outdraws as they are such an integral
part of poker. Even the pros experience beats, but part of what
separates a very good player from a lesser player is largely to do with
how they handle the situation after such a beat or series of beats, and
to not let that affect their game.

We wish you the best of luck and hope that the cards will turn around
for the better!

Regards,

Aaron M
Poker Specialist
Full Tilt Poker Support

#12 December 14th, 2007, 9:37 PM

i emailed stars and said "i wanna win the sunday million or else im gonna tell everyone i know to stop playing at your site"
they already registered me for the tournament (even though i cant afford the buyin). i cant wait till sunday!

#13 December 14th, 2007, 10:02 PM

obvious call, they were suited

#14 December 14th, 2007, 10:04 PM

Thought yall might get a kick out of this.I saw it posted at another forum some time ago and felt a need to plagiarize it.

The funny thing is a lot of people there thought it was for real The doom switch

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#15 December 14th, 2007, 10:05 PM

as entertaining as hte post was, it is obviously a joke. 3 key points

1. The emailer called george bush a douchebag, i dont quite believe they would do that

2. I dont think they would divulge this information, since why would they tell a random member this kind of stuff, when it can be information that can get them sewed for cheating players out of money, and can be a reason why they can be neglected as a poker site

3. You just openly admitted to stealing internet which is a criminal offence where i live

#16 December 14th, 2007, 10:11 PM

Good find, thanks for sharing Jimmy.

#17 December 14th, 2007, 10:18 PM

also the attachment could not be more made up. The pokerstars agreement was that you would not suffer a bad beat, this does not mean you would win every hand. In your attachment, why would the kings and aces flat call the min raise? a bit fishy. Also if you were to randomly go all in first hand, what are the chances in these hand coming up, well thats one for a,g to answer. You could have made it more believable by having pok tens vs king ten, king q and q,ten and the tens holding up.

And in response to my first post, i think they would have rathered you quit than to have to reveal this information

#18 December 14th, 2007, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by switch0723

as entertaining as hte post was, it is obviously a joke. 3 key points

1. The emailer called george bush a douchebag, i dont quite believe they would do that

2. I dont think they would divulge this information, since why would they tell a random member this kind of stuff, when it can be information that can get them sewed for cheating players out of money, and can be a reason why they can be neglected as a poker site

3. You just openly admitted to stealing internet which is a criminal offence where i live

Originally Posted by switch0723

also the attachment could not be more made up. The pokerstars agreement was that you would not suffer a bad beat, this does not mean you would win every hand. In your attachment, why would the kings and aces flat call the min raise? a bit fishy. Also if you were to randomly go all in first hand, what are the chances in these hand coming up, well thats one for a,g to answer. You could have made it more believable by having pok tens vs king ten, king q and q,ten and the tens holding up.

And in response to my first post, i think they would have rathered you quit than to have to reveal this information

#19 December 14th, 2007, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Dorkus Malorkus

LMFAO, brilliant, ill take this on face value and shut up

#20 December 14th, 2007, 11:10 PM

Great thread, and lol @ Dorkus. The doom switch

#21 December 14th, 2007, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by DetroitJimmy

The funny thing is a lot of people there thought it was for real The doom switch

.

I think we have that problem here too.

Sounds like a letter Vanquish would write: "STOP DOOMSWITCHING ME PLZ. I WANT T-00."... followed by a fistpump.

The doom switch

#22 December 14th, 2007, 11:24 PM

dammit, how did everybody know it was a joke. I am such a sucker for falling into this, no wonder i fall into traps so often at the table

#23 December 15th, 2007, 2:25 AM

COOL JIMMY , I like the hand replay , why can't we all do that ?

lol @ switch , wanna buy some beach front property in arkansas ?

#24 December 15th, 2007, 2:45 AM

Originally Posted by switch0723

dammit, how did everybody know it was a joke. I am such a sucker for falling into this, no wonder i fall into traps so often at the table

Once you have read three dozen "RIGGED" posts you can tell in the first sentence. -- 'This is no BS, indisputable proof that the so called alleged "doom switch" really exists.' -- Should have gotten it by here.

#25 December 15th, 2007, 6:43 AM

Originally Posted by DetroitJimmy

I started eating dogfood in between SNG's...

Purina puts out some choice beef cutlets. Just saying.

Oh, and <3 Chris. The doom switch

#26 December 15th, 2007, 8:33 AM

What exactly is a t01, t10, t11? i play a lot of poker online but nothin more than 10 doller SNG's..so sites are set with what kind of cards you recieve

#27 December 15th, 2007, 9:52 AM

#28 December 15th, 2007, 1:59 PM

Originally Posted by jaymfc

lol @ switch , wanna buy some beach front property in arkansas ?

I do actually, then i will be the only 1 with a beach front property in arkansas (since i dont live in america, i am now just praying that arkansas isn't on the coast, and i havn't made myself look like a sucker again)

Originally Posted by TandA_lover

What exactly is a t01, t10, t11? i play a lot of poker online but nothin more than 10 doller SNG's..so sites are set with what kind of cards you recieve

At least i worked it out before the guy who plays at fulltiltpoke

#29 February 13th, 2008, 7:19 PM

Bump!!!!Sorry to dredge up old threads,but I figured I would put this out there for all the newer members.

#30 February 13th, 2008, 8:19 PM

How did I miss this when it was first posted? Man I just ROTFLMAOACMP a bit

#31 February 13th, 2008, 8:28 PM

Funny. Thanks for bumping this. It was a good read. I am sure there are plenty of people out there that believe this actually happens.

#32 February 13th, 2008, 8:49 PM

ughhh, thats right, bump my unfortunate gullibleness (spelling?)

#33 February 14th, 2008, 12:38 AM

I just suffered a really badbeat on stars and came in here and read this. It's a good thing he called the president a douchebag or i would have probably believed every word. The doom switch

#34 February 14th, 2008, 8:31 AM

Originally Posted by wsorbust

I can understand if this is a joke. A very lenghty and worthwhile one btw. The doom switch

But, then again, I can't help but be very gullible and wonder if these are actual emails? lol

Well, hmpff, they're either real e-mails, or online poker is RIGGED ... The doom switch

#35 February 14th, 2008, 8:43 AM

ROFLMAO

#36 February 14th, 2008, 8:51 AM

i lol'd after reading this The doom switch

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