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LukeSilver
Rock Star
Silver Level
Well I am risking yet another ban from a poker site, but probably not. Last time I quoted stats to make the point more and they reported this, this time I didn't because in all truth when this happens you don't need to look at stats you already know.
sometimes, most of the time there are one or two or maybe more if your playing low stakes or just got lucky bad players on the table. With weakness you can exploit. In truth most players have weakness to be exploited ABC players which seem to be among the majority are easy to read and bluff, "bad players" who don't understand hand selection are harder to read but generally easy to exploit because you can see there bad play, eg they shove on an ace board u might fold AK against an ABC knowing they have two pair or trips you cant against Bad players who would do this with A2 off suit.
There are good players who can represent different hands and play junk sometimes who often are mistaken for bad players when really there among the very best.
But then there are the truly awful players, players who you know lose a lot very quickly, and these are the ones i talk to, these are the ones that have got me banned from several sites. I should say suspended as I got 24 and 48 hour bans not permeant bands.
This not another bad beat rant. more a question on moral principal. You see they play any two cards j3 off suit flat calls a raised and called pot pre flop in limit holdem game with players to act behind him. post flop play was awful, practically willing to call down with any pair or anything. decided to limp in late middle position with A5 not a bad play if you raise with it to try and steal and can have position if called. But limping with A5 awful and of course I had the bigger ace and took them down when the ace hit.
sure if they had raised I would have re raised anyway but they can't know this.
So everything and i mean everything they do is wrong. So I told them when someone is playing 80% of there hands in a fixed limit full ring game and chasing long shot draws and calling down in multi way pots with any pair at all, It is clear. this is not a small time loser this is a big time loser.
Most poker players relish this situation you encounter it rarely and most want to exploit it as much as possible.
Well as I have already mentioned here before I once went broke lost everything I had I am now a winning player and take bad runs and bad beats badly but cope fine because I do make nearly twice as much on an hourly rate as i do in my day job, and remind myself of this in the bad times.
But when I was broke and in bad debt I had very negative thoughts and almost did something stupid.
thats well in the past now and can't happen again because I have bank roll management now and would get out permanently if i went on a long enough stretch without winning and it was clear i couldn't anymore. Still enough fish out there though, so wont happen.
However these people I highly doubt have bank roll management and most probably do lose more then they can afford, and I just can't not say anything. I do tell them I think they have a problem I do tell them they should stop, I do try and talk sense into them. exploiting a bad player is one thing, exploiting an average player you can read is ok. However exploiting a truly awful reckless player, who clearly has a gambling problem who you know may consider suicide down the line or split there family up or suffer real badly without saying anything to them. I just can't do that. I don't show them any mercy in hands I don't for anyone and if i end up stacking them there not getting it back from, But i do warn them and i do try and talk sense into them and I know most don't.
And I have had warnings from sites before I am worth $12000 a year in rake though $8000 after rake back and the likes, which is a lot more then players like this whom are likely to go broke and not return before they reach 3k in rake. Would they really permanently ban me?
Would you say something do you think I should be saying something.
sometimes, most of the time there are one or two or maybe more if your playing low stakes or just got lucky bad players on the table. With weakness you can exploit. In truth most players have weakness to be exploited ABC players which seem to be among the majority are easy to read and bluff, "bad players" who don't understand hand selection are harder to read but generally easy to exploit because you can see there bad play, eg they shove on an ace board u might fold AK against an ABC knowing they have two pair or trips you cant against Bad players who would do this with A2 off suit.
There are good players who can represent different hands and play junk sometimes who often are mistaken for bad players when really there among the very best.
But then there are the truly awful players, players who you know lose a lot very quickly, and these are the ones i talk to, these are the ones that have got me banned from several sites. I should say suspended as I got 24 and 48 hour bans not permeant bands.
This not another bad beat rant. more a question on moral principal. You see they play any two cards j3 off suit flat calls a raised and called pot pre flop in limit holdem game with players to act behind him. post flop play was awful, practically willing to call down with any pair or anything. decided to limp in late middle position with A5 not a bad play if you raise with it to try and steal and can have position if called. But limping with A5 awful and of course I had the bigger ace and took them down when the ace hit.
sure if they had raised I would have re raised anyway but they can't know this.
So everything and i mean everything they do is wrong. So I told them when someone is playing 80% of there hands in a fixed limit full ring game and chasing long shot draws and calling down in multi way pots with any pair at all, It is clear. this is not a small time loser this is a big time loser.
Most poker players relish this situation you encounter it rarely and most want to exploit it as much as possible.
Well as I have already mentioned here before I once went broke lost everything I had I am now a winning player and take bad runs and bad beats badly but cope fine because I do make nearly twice as much on an hourly rate as i do in my day job, and remind myself of this in the bad times.
But when I was broke and in bad debt I had very negative thoughts and almost did something stupid.
thats well in the past now and can't happen again because I have bank roll management now and would get out permanently if i went on a long enough stretch without winning and it was clear i couldn't anymore. Still enough fish out there though, so wont happen.
However these people I highly doubt have bank roll management and most probably do lose more then they can afford, and I just can't not say anything. I do tell them I think they have a problem I do tell them they should stop, I do try and talk sense into them. exploiting a bad player is one thing, exploiting an average player you can read is ok. However exploiting a truly awful reckless player, who clearly has a gambling problem who you know may consider suicide down the line or split there family up or suffer real badly without saying anything to them. I just can't do that. I don't show them any mercy in hands I don't for anyone and if i end up stacking them there not getting it back from, But i do warn them and i do try and talk sense into them and I know most don't.
And I have had warnings from sites before I am worth $12000 a year in rake though $8000 after rake back and the likes, which is a lot more then players like this whom are likely to go broke and not return before they reach 3k in rake. Would they really permanently ban me?
Would you say something do you think I should be saying something.
