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TheDevilsLuck
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Rush poker always felt like a right place at the right time lottery to me. If you get a good hand and everyone at your table is waiting for AA too bad, but if you get a bunch of steal 3-betters, it might turn out nice. My strategy is to stay as far from rush poker as possible, however.
Jagsti
I'm sweet enough!
Silver Level
Sorry but I have no clue what your talking about.
TheDevilsLuck
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Understandable, I think in a pretty strange manner. I once thought about the randomness and absurdity of rush poker and drove myself insane. The basic idea is it doesn't only matter what cards you get, but the players you get when you get the cards.
I can remember a hand playing rush poker where I was dealt AA and some guy stacked off pre-flop with QTo. Now, no normal person in their right mind would do this. Luckily, he was at the table at the time. Then he just went away to another table and I thought, "I want to play that guy all day." This is when I realized how awful the concept was of the bad players just going away to a table that isn't yours.
As for actual rush strategy. Steal more, set mine, play good hands, and maybe throw some suited connectors in there. You know basically like normal, but I'm pretty break even at it, so I'm not one for very good advice. Or you could buy-in for really low amounts go all-in with really good hands and hope people think it looks like you're steaming from just losing a big hand. I doubt that would actually work though.
Charade You Are
you can call me Frost
Silver Level
I've lost more $ with AA and QQ at rush than any other starting hands. It's a minefield, especially at happy hour...but I still play, it's addicting.
They do come back. And there are always more bad players at the next table.
xdeucesx
Bar Master
Silver Level
your all wrong
nit it up...tighten down your starting range to pocket pairs and a few Ax's, with some big aces mixed in around the button...raise, dont call and dont be afraid to get it in for stacks pre w/JJ+
nit it up...tighten down your starting range to pocket pairs and a few Ax's, with some big aces mixed in around the button...raise, dont call and dont be afraid to get it in for stacks pre w/JJ+
Traggy
Rising Star
Silver Level
I have played almost 200k hands at Rush .02 .05 and have made almost $300 and run around 5bb/100. A HUD it essential and paying close to certain steal spots is how you make the money. You really need to think about the hands and use the three bet to make people pay to set mine, because the only hands the Fish play are pairs and AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK, AQ. That is the range. Play tight, but steal steal steal. If you are first in the pot at cutoff/button, raise, but be a bit more selective on the cutoff because the button will three bet you accordingly with a wide range. You want to watch for the players with High VP and High 3bet and those are the ones you make the most money off of in rush because they will raise and raise again.
The game is very beatable and very easy.. The people that are losing money at this level are the ones sitting around waiting for the big hands, while you steal and get paid on your monsters.
Last thing,
Do not bluff, at all. You get resistance, they have it. Overplaying big pairs is a great way to go broke in Rush. I have had to fold KK preflop a few times, and its simply putting this game into a perspective of what it is and that is "the nuts" type game. This is not a normal ring game, opening with 78 suited early is not the way to play here at all.
The game is very beatable and very easy.. The people that are losing money at this level are the ones sitting around waiting for the big hands, while you steal and get paid on your monsters.
Last thing,
Do not bluff, at all. You get resistance, they have it. Overplaying big pairs is a great way to go broke in Rush. I have had to fold KK preflop a few times, and its simply putting this game into a perspective of what it is and that is "the nuts" type game. This is not a normal ring game, opening with 78 suited early is not the way to play here at all.
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mrmonkey
Visionary
Silver Level
Thank you for this post, Traggy! It's good to know and see anecdotal evidence that 5nl FR rush is beatable at a 5bb/100 clip over a fairly decent sample size. Would you be willing to share what kind of VPIP/PFR/AF stats you run? I have been averaging about 16/9/1.3 which I'm sure is too loose and too passive.
I'm mainly a 6-max player with a decent WR, and Rush FR has just been so elusive to me. I'd like to get better at it because I think it's a great way to grind for Ironman in short sessions.
I have put in about 65,000 hands at 5nl FR rush now and have been about breakeven -- I think the major leaks for me have been overplaying QQ+ and not taking advantage of optimal steal spots. Additionally, I have succumbed to tilt far too often while playing Rush that made me open my preflop range way too wide and further tilted me after I ended up with more coolers (hence, the loose stats above).
I appreciate the advice, and will probably be doing some tweaking to my HUD for Rush sessions.
xdeucesx
Bar Master
Silver Level
never fold kings preflop no matter what first off
but if your having trouble beating fr 5nl, switch to 6 max....I was up 150$ over 40,000 hands at 5nl 6 max and alot of the same rules traggy said applies, except their ranges are a bit wider than full ring
but if your having trouble beating fr 5nl, switch to 6 max....I was up 150$ over 40,000 hands at 5nl 6 max and alot of the same rules traggy said applies, except their ranges are a bit wider than full ring
Traggy
Rising Star
Silver Level
You do if you know your players, People usually don't 4 bet with anything less. Do not get me wrong I have done it twice, but I can confidently say I was beat. People do not go all in preflop with AK and QQ generally in Rush because of how many times they have been burned in the past when facing a tight player.
Traggy
Rising Star
Silver Level
14/10 AF = 3 (I hate this stat) AFq = 50% (more accurate)
3bet = 5%
I am very aggressive, but when you are playing who has the better hand out of two monsters you need to be. One more piece of advice and this is for the game in general. When three betting light make sure you have a post flop hand. For instance J9 suited, or 33, 67, etc. Don't just start three betting unless you are facing a High PFR player with a high fold to three bet. (Good stat to use btw)
Also, Watch for Donk betting, (betting the pot post flop oop) lots of fish do this and it is worth the call. Most will slow play monsters and this is 80% of the time a steal attempt followed by a check on 4th. Fish tend to swim together so this is a very general statement, but tons of players do it at this level.
Just pay attention to flop texture and really ask yourself the question when you are facing a tuff decision and that is simply
"What can I honestly beat"
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bobsay225
Rock Star
Silver Level
thanx for all the info My dilemma has been winning small with the aa and when i can get it all in preflop q5 off hits the flush and small pairs hitting trips.Frustrating watching next table everyone going .15 raises from the utg.ahhh gonna change 3bet stats around on hud.
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