Is this a Bad Play with KK?

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I'm Going up against a Very Aggressive player, and I know If I raise that he would Fold...So my plan for the hand was to C/R preflop, and because I know this player usually wont Fold Once He's Invested anything into the pot, My Question is A)Is this a Good play to play against these types of Aggressive Players? B) How could I have found out where I stood in the hand, without Letting him off cheaply if it's even possible? Last question for the hand is, Are we beat here, or are we good?




poker stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1375579
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CO: $2.10
Hero (BTN): $4.25
SB: $3.07
BB: $12.47
UTG: $2.20
MP: $1.08

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with K :spade: K :diamond:
3 folds, Hero calls $0.02, SB calls $0.01, BB raises to $0.14, Hero raises to $0.60, 1 fold, BB calls $0.46

Flop: ($1.22) 4 :club: Q :club: 2 :spade: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.62) 5 :spade: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.95 all in, BB calls $2.95

River: ($8.52) 4 :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)
 
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If you have a good read that you will get raised by limping and get more value that way I don't see why not.
 
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Ultimate mega-spew.

I stopped reading after that.


But If you kept reading after-wards you'd notice why I did What I did...Every Time I Limped into a Hand this player Raised, Every Time I raised He Folded...So then I watched him Raise other limpers when I was not in the hand, and he Got RR and he still called...So he constantly kept on doing that move of the Raise, get RR and then ends up calling....Yet if I raise he folds...I don't see the negative to it...Unless your suggesting I just raise and he Folds and we win the blinds????
 
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Every Time I raised He Folded
You're more likely selectively remembering when you've only won the blinds with big hands in the past. And you're scared you won't get action this time.

Or, you are a 60/3 fish, and its very easy for him to get out of the way once you raise.

Either way, limping kings on the button is wrong. There's really no getting around that.
 
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And by the way, there's a forum for this sort of thing. How do you have 2.5k posts and still not get the basics of how this forum works? Why do you think you can beat online poker if you can't figure out the simplest rules of the poker forum?
 
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Raise with garbage and show when they fold, then you will get plenty of action with kk. I would never limp with kk in .01/.02 game. Thats a .06 cent pot and two other hands you have to worry about if your plan didn't work as hoped.
 
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And by the way, there's a forum for this sort of thing. How do you have 2.5k posts and still not get the basics of how this forum works? Why do you think you can beat online poker if you can't figure out the simplest rules of the poker forum?

I totally agree, I mean really KK and AA are scary cards if you don't know how to use them properly. If you get too much action pre-flop and there's 4-5 to the flop AA, KK can make you lose a lot.
 
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Every Time I Limped into a Hand this player Raised, Every Time I raised He Folded...

I've limped in the past with AA and KK to 3bet (or even shove) but I don't recall doing it for one player sake. For the table sake with several players being a potential target for this, yes I can see this working but for one player I don't see this being a good play.

Why wouldn't someone else 3bet or call your raise?
 
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Even disregarding the pre-flop, where if you're playing a solid aggressive game you should be raising 30-50% of hands depending on opponents and therefore KK as part of that, there are still minor mistakes in the rest of the hand. It is definitely bet bet but make it $1+ on the flop on a great board in this spot and this has the added benefit of not needing to over shove the turn.

You don't need to get tricky with what you have said is a bad player and I agree you're probably selectively remembering, how many times did he fold to your raises before you formed your decision? Just play standardly, get the simple things right time and again and wait for genuine reasons to deviate from that, because right now nobody is exploiting you, and you don't have to do much more than the basics to exploit your opponents.

...Every Time I Limped into a Hand...

This says a lot in itself.


C9 is right about not posting in the right place too, surely you know there is a sub forum for HA by now?
 
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I mean you doubled up didnt you?...so no its not...it just happened to work in that situation...
 
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But If you kept reading after-wards you'd notice why I did What I did...Every Time I Limped into a Hand this player Raised, Every Time I raised He Folded...

Its still wrong
 
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You don't need to get tricky with what you have said is a bad player

There are no good players at 2nl. Therefore there is never any need to be tricky.

Bet for value and dont bluff. Repeat 50K times then move up to 5NL
 
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yes its wrong but maybe the only way to get payed so its right.
these guys would go bonkers if he hit bottom pair .
at least 95% a winner with kk
 
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.Every Time I Limped into a Hand this player Raised, .

So why don't you never limp and he can't raise you

Every Time I raised He Folded...Yet if I raise he folds

Then why not raise 100% and watch him fold 100% of the time?
If he starts adjusting maybe raise 25% so your flop equity is going to be higher.

After a while you'll be ~25/21 and thats not too bad.
 
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