This is a discussion on How are certain poker rooms considered soft? within the online poker forums, in the Poker Rooms section; Whether it is in a forum post or on a website review, I've notcied that some poker rooms are considered to be a lot more
Whether it is in a forum post or on a website review, I've notcied that some poker rooms are considered to be a lot more soft than others. On a scale of 1-10, certain rooms tend to be reviewed and ranked high with very competitive players and others seem to rank very low and have a lot of fish. My question is what basis are these rankings calculated from and what merit do they actually have?
It would seem to me that at least for U.S. players, there are a fairly limited number of poker sites available and I've hardly found the three main sites I play at (Juicy, ACR, and BetOnline) to be that different in competition - it's entirely based upon who happens to be playing that night and I don't really consider any site to have a specific trend for competitivness. You also can't speak for every player, and so what is average to one player, perhaps even the reviewer could be considered very tough for another.
The other problem I see in having rooms with particular rankings of competition at said room is that if a room is originally ranked as soft, that becomes appealing for more competitive players looking to milk money out of less experienced players. Fish want to swim with other fish, so they'll avoid sites with lots of sharks; however, the sharks also want to swim with the fish, so the rooms that are supposedly home to the weakest players are also the most appealing for the strongest players, which would seem to me make competition balance out.
What do you think? Do certain rooms really have less competition than others? Are certain rooms really filled with more fish than other sites? And if so, what keeps the competition so soft when so many sharks are attracted to it? Or do you think the difficulty rankings that provided in reviews are really just the reviewers opinion as a result of their experience at the tables during their review?
27th January 2013, 6:30 PM
Online Poker at: Bovada
Most new players don't know when a shark is in the water. They chalk it up to bad luck or the site is rigged so it doesn't as you put it "balance out." Now they may play on another site and have more wins and think the site is more legit but till they've been playing long enough they don't know much about rooms being soft. The reason it doesn't balance is because there are so many people who don't take the time to learn the game. I play on carbon and bovada mostly, but I've played on quite a few sites the one's considered "soft" a lot of times have withdraw problems. The reviews they're all based on that person or persons experience.
27th January 2013, 6:36 PM
Poker at: WPN
re: Poker & How are certain poker rooms considered soft?
Number and quality of the player pool. It would be considered soft if the player pool contains more inexperienced players, and the higher the percentage/proportion of inexperienced players, the softer it is considered.
With you being in Iowa, you, and I, are limited by currently available online games. The remaining player pool in the US, since UIGEA, and Black Friday, has hardened up all our rooms. There is not a continuing influx of new, inexperienced players like there used to be.
So it is wise to consider that 'soft' is a relative term used to describe a perception.
28th January 2013, 10:25 PM
Online Poker at: Merge, BCP
Game: MTT, SnGs
Soft is only a useful stat when u activity look for solt/fish players when joining a table
Sites with a lot of soft play would be from sites with a sportsbook or casino things that would draw in more people who don't play poker but it really doesn't mean a whole lot if u don't lurk around and look for the soft tables yourself