ThinkDiffrent
Rock Star
Silver Level
I don't think that's allowed
Nikolay Nakhaev
Legend
Silver Level
it is strictly prohibited. can punish and confiscate a bankroll and block a very long time.better not to do that. if someone from the family still wants to create their account, you should inform the technical support service in advance and decide whether you can or not, and they will check everything long and carefully. [emoji32][emoji32][emoji32]
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Pablo22
Legend
Bronze Level
It is definitely against the rules and there is no good reason to do so. You may think you want an edge to do so, but if you ever have a big win and they take a closer look at your account they will see what you have done. not worth it.
Risto234
põrandaalune pokkerimängija
Loyaler
In poker - NO
In sports betting - YES
It's been like few years since i started doing it but cause i dont use these multiple accounts in same betting site together too often then i assume it's the reason why i can still use them(thanks local newspaper article)
E: yes i know it's against bookie rules and you'd NOT try this at home but i guess there's nothing wrong with taking way more money from betting sites
In sports betting - YES
It's been like few years since i started doing it but cause i dont use these multiple accounts in same betting site together too often then i assume it's the reason why i can still use them(thanks local newspaper article)
E: yes i know it's against bookie rules and you'd NOT try this at home but i guess there's nothing wrong with taking way more money from betting sites
Acechador
Visionary
Platinum Level
I have not registered more than one account on any platform, however I have seen several cases that attract my attention and surely belong to the same user.
Maybe you have seen mainly in PS nicks as pokermaster; pokermaster [1], pokermaster [2] and so on.
I do not know what problems they have to withdraw their earnings, but that is what I can comment on the subject.
naydanazar
Rock Star
Silver Level
mistershrimpy
Rock Star
Silver Level
Nice try, security service
! What poker room are you from? =)
finaltable1
Legend
Loyaler
Sure, what's the problem?
I've got 2 accounts at each site, except for PS and ACR and some other sites where I've registered recently. One main account is registered in my name, the other one registered using my relatives details who lives in a city nearby. I got 2 broadband internet connections at home and 3 wireless connections. I used to play poker on 2 laptops. Don't see any problem with that. I'm not playing too much poker during past several years and not using 2nd account, but what's the problem again? I could register a second account at PS if not my brother who already did that, but I can ask permission of my other relatives to use their details and open a bank account for me... what's the problem? Debit card is something that is easy to do and you can't do any financial damage to your relative.
They don't allow 2 accounts under one name and often don't allow 2 accounts at the same address, plus it might be hard to log on from the same iP address. SOOO? Use the other name and different iP address and you will have 2 accounts under your control. I know players who live in Russia but use second account which is registered in Ukraine, just because their relatives live there, and they've established a VPN connection.
What's the problem? There is no problem. Just follow the rules. What poker rooms can prove? Can they catch you when you're using second account at the second laptop at the same desk? Nope, they can't. Can you prove that you're not using second account? Sure, you can ask your relative to perform anything that casino wants you to do.
Just don't play and win qualifiers to live events using 2 accounts, or you will have to teach your relative how to gamble. xD
I've got 2 accounts at each site, except for PS and ACR and some other sites where I've registered recently. One main account is registered in my name, the other one registered using my relatives details who lives in a city nearby. I got 2 broadband internet connections at home and 3 wireless connections. I used to play poker on 2 laptops. Don't see any problem with that. I'm not playing too much poker during past several years and not using 2nd account, but what's the problem again? I could register a second account at PS if not my brother who already did that, but I can ask permission of my other relatives to use their details and open a bank account for me... what's the problem? Debit card is something that is easy to do and you can't do any financial damage to your relative.
They don't allow 2 accounts under one name and often don't allow 2 accounts at the same address, plus it might be hard to log on from the same iP address. SOOO? Use the other name and different iP address and you will have 2 accounts under your control. I know players who live in Russia but use second account which is registered in Ukraine, just because their relatives live there, and they've established a VPN connection.
What's the problem? There is no problem. Just follow the rules. What poker rooms can prove? Can they catch you when you're using second account at the second laptop at the same desk? Nope, they can't. Can you prove that you're not using second account? Sure, you can ask your relative to perform anything that casino wants you to do.
Just don't play and win qualifiers to live events using 2 accounts, or you will have to teach your relative how to gamble. xD
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UncleConRon
Visionary
Silver Level
My opinion
Software is getting harder to go there. I used to have more then one account on pokerstars and Fulltilt. They still knew it was me by the way I chatted to them but I would be playing for something or someone else because I didn't need the stuff.
Software is getting harder to go there. I used to have more then one account on pokerstars and Fulltilt. They still knew it was me by the way I chatted to them but I would be playing for something or someone else because I didn't need the stuff.
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Renato09
Rising Star
Bronze Level
hahahahaNice try, security service
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Renato09
Rising Star
Bronze Level
best answer... I have two differents IP address... and accounts with differents address too...
so, it's a problem for sure if you want to fool the site, but it's ok if you are doing this on the right way! hehehe
smallfrie
Lucky Ducky
Loyaler
Many sites are on the same network and you can have an account on each site, for example Black Chip Poker and Americas Card Room are a part of the Winning Poker Network and you can have an account on both sites, you just can't play on both accounts at the same time.
smallfrie
Lucky Ducky
Loyaler
The problem is, that it is against the rules of the sites, multi accounting is unethical, the fact that you are pretending to be someone you are not are just a few things, and you should be banned for it.
finaltable1
Legend
Loyaler
Ya yA, some virtual reality you've got there. Next step is to say that bluffing is unethitical or winning pre-flop all-in with 72os is against the rules, and multitabling is cheating, using HUD is hacking, right?
Now lets try and think objective, shall we? Have you ever heard about such term as "Presumption of innocence" ?
You're not guilty unless someone proves that you are.
Ethical-unethitcal-shmetical-poethical.... whatever.
The legal agreement with poker room together with their security system is the rules of their game, and i'm playing by their rules. Can you or poker room security prove that i'm doing something against the rules?
Playing cash together with friends from other countries and sharing cards over the whatsapp or viber is also against the rules, but what can you prove? Play real life poker and you'll have a 90% chance to play fair game.
Now here is a puzzle for you:
I'm playing on 2 accts for more than 5 years without a single problem BUT I LIED, I've only got 1 account on each site! Now try to guess where's my bluff was. Good luck.:captain:
smallfrie
Lucky Ducky
Loyaler
You don't have to be proven guilty when you make an admission of guilt.
finaltable1
Legend
Loyaler
Exactly.
I guess that we live in different cultures, I think that you're not crossing the empty road if you see a red light signal, don't you?
Now let's leave your virtual reality and get back to the facts. You can ask yourself these questions to face the facts:
Who is guilty and why? Who is the judge?
Am I guilty for participating in forum discussion? What are the evidences that i'm saying truth in my posts?
Are you the judge or do you have any power to do something about the forum post?
Can poker site prove anything if he is told by 3rd person that some player has 2 accounts?
Is it EV+ decision for poker site to ban 2 rake generating accounts?
Will someone who controls 2 accounts at the same poker site write a message to the security or support team to let them know that he has 2 accts?
From my point of view, things are quite obvious. I do it because I can. Why I can? Because I've studied the subject and I'm using my knowledge. If they're not taking any action for such long time, than it means that either I'm doing everything correctly, or they know about it and they don't mind. By using weak sides of a system we're only making this system better. It will evolve to prevent leaks and errors, or it will collapse and make space for a new system. This is evolution.
I value your subjective opinion, and actually it's good that you have your own opinion and it's good to know that you're honest person, but objectively most of the facts aren't on your side. Opinion is fair and somehow related to the idea of this thread, but your position is weak and foolish. Your answers to my posts in this thread look like: "We're discussing if aliens exist or not", but You're saying that "I belive in god".
I hope that you realise that most of the players do understand that it's not permitted to have 2 accounts, because when they're trying to register a second one from the same PC or iP or under the same name, software is not letting them. I also hope that you understand that online poker isn't a fair game at all. Casino is robbing 100% of fools using rake, while fools are trying to steal each others money using all possible methods. And it's all about the virtual pixel drama at our monitors. Hey, you see cards there? Flop-turn-river? Ace-King-Queen-Deuce???? Wake up, it's pixels dude... and you're not touching any cards, you're clicking a mouse.
Be objective please. You're trying to play a honest and fair game in a virtual world designed to generate profit for someone using rake, you're playing against mostly unknow people, in fact you don't even 100% know if they're people, you belive that they are, and you believe that their code of conduct is simillar to yours, but it's not. Such position is like chewing your own hand when you're hungry.:icon_pale
I didn't wanted to sound rude or insulting, and had nothing evil on my mind, just tried to explain the reality as it is, without pink glasses, correct me if i'm wrong.
COMIRRR
Legend
Bronze Level
From the poker site policies I know you are not allowed to have 2 accounts. That does not mean you can not make more accounts. I wonder if you have 2-3 accounts and you were lucky enough to make a bankroll in the freerolls and want to withdraw the money, find out the administrators and ban that? I'm sure that if you make deposits on the 2-3 accounts there would be no problem ))
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