Bodog Launches New Software Today!

[dmorris68]

I am not sure if anyone else is having connection problems there?
I entered the Holiday Freeroll last night and had a game on Carbon up too and it glitched and froze on the table, I had that problem with bodog if I had PS or FT open as well. So I closed my carbon game and reopened bovada and still when my table opened it froze up again and the client closed.
I am not sure if it might be the browser I downloaded it from, if I should download again from a different one, or if I just change browser defaults if it will open with a different one?
Is anyone else having connection issues?

Can't speak to current connection issue as I uninstalled the garbage even before it went bovine.

But the browser you downloaded from should not be relevant -- if you can browse to the download at all and start it, it will download the same from any browser. Plus if it installed it was almost certainly not a corrupted download, otherwise the installer would not have worked.

Assuming this isn't a widespread issue, you might try uninstalling and re-installing in case your installation got corrupted.

 

[Poker Orifice]

Well Bodog now changing their name to Bavada which I don't like that name but it really doesn't matter much since after Dec 31, 2011 there will be no more players from USA allowed to play there so whatever they are doing is of no help to me now.. CH72:willy:

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[Charade You Are]

Just played on their new software for the first time. Tried $5 PLO. Seems like the micro players just wanted to donate their $.

I really don't understand why we can't take our own notes on players--that's probably what I missed the most.

Seems like it would be a colluders paradise now. Certainly no way to know if it's the same two players. I use to put notes on players I thought might be colluding so if they showed up at the same table again I could watch for it.

 

[DittoDeano25]

I've always been a fan of bodog now called Bovada Poker. And i'm a fan of the new look and tournaments selection. Been away from the tables for awhile now. Might be time to deposit and play here again !!!

 

[curly]

I just got done checking out the new site, needless to say I wont be playing there.

 

[Poker Orifice]

I really don't understand why we can't take our own notes on players--that's probably what I missed the most.

Seems like it would be a colluders paradise now. Certainly no way to know if it's the same two players. I use to put notes on players I thought might be colluding so if they showed up at the same table again I could watch for it.

Exactly this ^ (both things)

 

[JamesDaBear]

I understand and support what they're trying to do as a player who abhors HUDs, and data mining, etc... I just wish they would have executed their actions with 1% the effectiveness as they could have. Whatever they want to accomplish, they're simply failing.

 

[fletchdad]

Exactly this ^ (both things)

^^^^yea, this.....

y'all dont want poker player on the new software, obv..........


BUT, why the fk dont ya?????

 

[fletchdad]

I understand and support what they're trying to do as a player who abhors HUDs, and data mining, etc... I just wish they would have executed their actions with 1% the effectiveness as they could have. Whatever they want to accomplish, they're simply failing.

yea, I get this, although its not what I look for in a poker site. BUT ok, no tracking etc. BUT no player ID?. it is supposed to be like live playing? Hello... I know a guy I played last night. I dont know a guy I played 35 seconds ago on your SW......

 

[dmorris68]

Again guys, it's not just their position towards trackers. While I think it's as stupid a rule as any, blocking trackers alone is not what has sunk Bodog/Bovada in the eyes of serious poker players.

How many of you consider yourself now, or aspire to one day be, winning poker players? If so, how can you abide by anything Bodog/Bovada has done?

They have a well-documented stance against winning players. If you are a winning player in their eyes, they have been quoted as stating that you are bad for their poker economy.

So if you do any of the following, you are not welcome there:

• Win enough to withdraw regularly
• Use a tracker/HUD
• Take notes on players
• Care about and watch out for cheating/collusion
• Enjoy the social aspect of a poker game (obv not every winning player does, but many do)
• Use SharkScope/OPR to check out opponents' results. Note this is not datamining in the traditional sense, like mining HHs. This is collecting tournament/SNG results that are already available to everyone whether they play in the game or not (unlike HHs). And the same type of results that are tracked for most live tournament players, but nobody seems to have a big problem with.
• Are serious about studying and improving your game

Any of the above will typically put you at a level above the degenerate and/or unskilled fish who every weekend deposit casino/sportsbook money and then try their luck at a poker table. Those are the people they are catering to, and claim to be "protecting" from us "sharks." And that is why they have become essentially a video poker site, rather than a real poker site. They obviously want to run a pit/sportsbook site where the players have no edge.

 

[Poker Orifice]

yea, I get this, although its not what I look for in a poker site. BUT ok, no tracking etc. BUT no player ID?. it is supposed to be like live playing? Hello... I know a guy I played last night. I dont know a guy I played 35 seconds ago on your SW......

fk ya!! This ^

even for the typical rec. donk (ie. 'me') who enjoys the 'game' of poker... Bodonk fks that up completely for us with their b.s. anonymous crap

 

[Charade You Are]

I agree that Bo has gone completely overboard on this but I suspect most sites silently agree with preferring losing players over winning ones. As they stated, losing players deposit more adding more money to the pool out of which they get their rake. Winning players withdraw money.

If you need any further proof just look at the way deposits are handled versus withdrawals. I don't know any site that offers "instant" withdrawals.

I also don't think it's a good move in the long run because most recreational players don't like the total anonymous thing either, although I personally don't mind them taking steps to avoid datamining, total loss of identity and note taking is ridiculous. As a previous poster stated, even when you play live you know when you've been at a table with someone-it's not like eveyone has to wear hoods over their heads.

 

[dmorris68]

I agree that Bo has gone completely overboard on this but I suspect most sites silently agree with preferring losing players over winning ones. As they stated, losing players deposit more adding more money to the pool out of which they get their rake. Winning players withdraw money.

I disagree. Recreational fish come and go. Winning players stay and play, especially if you take good care of them. On a per-individual basis, they generate more rake than a casual player by the sheer volume that they play. They actually generate deposits from the people they take money from. The whole idea of reloading fish is the argument that Bodog is trying to make, so obviously they believe in fish reloading. Fish who want to play poker are going to reload no matter who takes their money (a winning reg or another fish). Besides, sites make nothing on deposits (unless they keep them in interest bearing accounts), they make money on rake -- whether a given pot is raked from a winning player or a casual player makes no difference to them.

If other sites had issues with winning players, they wouldn't cater to them as much as they do with rakeback, VIP rewards, active support for HUDs and trackers, nosebleed stakes and private tables, etc. I fail to believe Bodog has brilliantly "figured this out" on their own, while the likes of Stars, Tilt, Merge and everyone else are just too dumb to realize it.

If a site is saturated with winning players then yes the system will be out of balance, but in reality the percentage of truly winning players on any site is very small. The withdrawal hassles are not as much proof of them not liking winning players, it's proof of their desire to keep funds in the system and thus feeding rake as long as possible (as any business would), as well as the requirement for added scrutiny and security for withdrawing vs depositing. If you go to your bank and deposit $50K all it requires is a deposit slip. Heck you can even just drop it in the night deposit box. But try to withdraw $50K cash and see what hoops you have to jump through and forms you have to fill out (or what forms are filled out by the bank behind the scenes).

 

[Charade You Are]

If other sites had issues with winning players, they wouldn't cater to them as much as they do with rakeback, VIP rewards, active support for HUDs and trackers, nosebleed stakes and private tables, etc.....

Don't totally disagree with your points but rakeback and VIP rewards are more to generate volume than to reward winning players. I know (as a recreational player) that I played more volume when clearing bonuses or trying to achieve a reward.

But try to withdraw $50K cash and see what hoops you have to jump through and forms you have to fill out (or what forms are filled out by the bank behind the scenes).

Sites that require you to play a certain amount before you withdraw your deposit (not talking about just the bonus), or worse like Cake, that have a $500 minimum on check withdrawals, show how much they want to hold on to the $.

For withdrawals, I've never had a problem or hoops to jump through, but then I NEVER deal with national banks only locally owned small banks and credit unions. I've never w/d that amount in cash-but I have with a cashier's check and I've w/d over $5K in cash before both with no problems and no wait.

 

[BodogBecky]

Well Bodog now changing their name to Bavada which I don't like that name but it really doesn't matter much since after Dec 31, 2011 there will be no more players from USA allowed to play there so whatever they are doing is of no help to me now.. CH72:willy:

Bovada.LV is the new domain used by Morris Mohawk Gaming Group (MMGG) now that their license to use the Bodog brand has expired. Bovada will continue to accept US players after December 31st, its just the Bodog Brand name that is no longer in the US market.

Also, FYI, there are still a number of bodog licensed operators still in operation including Bodog.co.uk, Bodog.ca and Bodog88.com.

Thanks and happy holidays!
Becky

 

[PC69]

Blah Blah Blah. Thats all I heard. People still play there?

 

[waz666]

Despite all the complaining on here, their tables still seem to be at around the same levels they were before. Not busy, but certainly not slow either.

 

[WEC]

So, do recreational players like crap software (worse than before), that lags, is hard to click on actions. Now, in middle of Tourny it just shut down. Great Place for recreational players. You would never know this place has been around for years and this is almost 2012, not 1999.

 

[skullduggery]

i was 2 tabling s&g's, and when the action was on me on both tables, it would take the betting from the first table you bet from and apply the bet to the other table. this isn't in the rule book. did i miss a meeting?

 

[Tammy]

i was 2 tabling s&g's, and when the action was on me on both tables, it would take the betting from the first table you bet from and apply the bet to the other table. this isn't in the rule book. did i miss a meeting?

Probably a misclick on your part, but with anonymous names, it would be easy to miss.

 

[tbdbitl]

I have a curiousity question. If Bovada isn't Bo or a skin, why is the software the same?

 

[dmorris68]

I have a curiousity question. If Bovada isn't Bo or a skin, why is the software the same?

MMGG bought the software when they bought the Bodog license to use the brand. When their contract ran out, Bodog left and took their brand, MMGG kept everything else and rebranded it Bovada. Nothing actually changed but the brand. It's still the same organization running the same software and accounts.

 

[tbdbitl]

MMGG bought the software when they bought the Bodog license to use the brand. When their contract ran out, Bodog left and took their brand, MMGG kept everything else and rebranded it Bovada. Nothing actually changed but the brand. It's still the same organization running the same software and accounts.

So Bodog has no software?

 

[dmorris68]

So Bodog has no software?

Bodog no longer operates in the US. They are now a European network operating under Bodog.uk and Bodog.eu, but how they're marketing their software (under the Bodog brand or independent skins) I don't know. Maybe some of our Euros, or Bodog Becky if she's still around, can answer.

 

[Charade You Are]

Bovada is on the bodog poker Network.

Fun fact. Why is your web address Bovada.lv?

We wanted to use a distinctive web address that would remind our players of Las Vegas, the number one gambling destination in the US. We believe .lv reflects that feeling of fun and entertainment our players have when they visit Las Vegas and it's our hope for them to have a similar experience when playing with Bovada.lv


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