Cardschat Presents: An Hour with Vanessa Selbst

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Hi Vanessa,

Congrats on your recent win. Just how much time do you spend playing on the cash tables, what limits do you typically play and if you had to tell us which format do you perfer (MTT or cash) and why ?

I don't spend tons of time playing cash, but whenever I'm bored and there's a good game, I'll hop in. Usually MTTs and my other endeavors keep me pretty busy these days though. I do play from time to time online 8-game, just to keep working on my mixed games. I love MTTs way more just because there's so much more to think about with dynamic stack sizes and blinds... the situations are changing all the time.
 
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When you have a good (scary) player at the table who plays back at you without fear... how do you adjust?

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Some people say you should back down and try to play against the weaker players at the table. While there are elements of truth to that, I typically go the other way. I just play a high-stakes game of chicken where the other player knows I'm not going to back down and we could cost each other a lot of money if HE doesn't stay out of MY way. It usually works since they know I'm absurdly crazy, and then I get to be the one to run over the table :)
 
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Do you only play poker or do you gamble on other things also like prop bets, sports, and casino table games?

I just play poker... occasional forays into blackjack and small prop bets, but I don't seem to have the same need for a gamble as a lot of my action junkie friends do.
 
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Have you and Miranda set a date for your wedding yet? Are you planning a large wedding?

I know you travel a lot of the year - but will your primary residence be in California? (I think that is where you said you live or were going to be living)

Will you share a home with Vanessa, Liv and Maria again during the WSOP? Sounded like you all really enjoyed it last year.

What/when is your next tournament series? What is your favorite series to compete in every year?

Primary residence is in Las Vegas, though I spent a lot of time in Toronto and other places abroad to play on Stars... and of course I'm traveling a lot too.

I don't know if I'll be living with the girls this summer... I'd love to but only somewhere closer to the strip this summer. Too much of a commute last year! But that remains to be seen. It was a lot of fun this past summer.

Next tournaments for me are: Aussie Millions, which I'm REALLY looking forward to, then LAPC, Bay 101, and EPT London. I love London a lot as well... European city that reminds me a lot of NY.
 
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The thing that annoys me most at a poker table is slowrollers. What angers you most at the felt?
 
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What do you think the best line is here or gameplan for our overall range.
I thought it was a spot where i really don't want to bet much of my range so my cbetting range is probably quite polarised, my check calling range is pretty wide and not just hands like TT and i will also be check raising some bluffs and value hands on the flop (KThh stuff maybe). I'm not sure what i like doing with this particular hand though? seems kind of weak to check call without a diamond? How would you approach spots like this and do you think its a good idea to have a turn check raising range also? (something i don't think i really have here at the moment) Villain was a 16/14 reg and didnt fold to a ton of cbets fwiw, Thanks!

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (UTG) ($119.23) 119bb
UTG+1 ($95.53) 96bb
MP1 ($110) 110bb
MP2 ($37.32) 37bb
MP3 ($127.29) 127bb
CO ($85.64) 86bb
BTN ($36.64) 37bb
SB ($100.16) 100bb
BB ($96.50) 97bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 9 players) Hero is UTG K A
Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, MP3 calls $3, 4 folds

Flop: 8 Q 5 ($7.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: K ($17.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $11, Hero calls $11

River: 5 ($39.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks

Final Pot: $39.50
MP3 shows
J A
Hero shows two pair, Kings and Fives
K A

Hero wins $37.72 (net +$18.72)

MP3 lost $19

cbet or fold flop flop once you check... gonna be too tough to play otherwise. once you didn't fold flop, nicely played.
 
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Hi Vanessa
Overcoming obstacles in life and in the poker room, has been the story of your life.
Could you comment on dealing with constant disapproval from the feeble minded, and how you managed to keep yourself pure and true to self?

Honestly you just have to have a pretty thick skin. I used to get annoyed or upset by what people would say about me, but now I just chalk it up to a lot of ignorance.

The people who matter to me are my friends and the people who know me in real life. Those people know that I'm usually a good person with good intentions. If those people said negative things about me, I'd be really hurt. Beyond them though, I've just learned to ignore the ignorance.
 
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This is a cool idea. Do you have any other tips for little ways to improve your game apart from just reviewing hands, watching videos and the like?

Making friends on a similar level to you and talking about hands with them is really really huge. Also, poker forums like this one are an excellent resource. Watching videos - not just training videos, but also the unedited live streams of final tables they have with hole cards... that's really helpful too.
 
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Hey Vanessa,

I saw you pick apart Ben Lamb in the ME this year. When you find yourself at a table with aggressive pros, what goes through your mind? Are you trying to avoid them or using their aggression against them? Who would you say is the best player you have played against?

Somewhat answered this - see my comment about the "high stakes game of chicken." If it truly seems like someone won't back down, then I defer to position. If there's someone who has position on me and they're fighting over every pot, I just tighten up, let them run the table over a bit, and try to get them with a good hand. If I am the one with position, I don't think I would ever back down!

Ivey is the best player I've played against... just unreal sick how everyone plays badly against him (and how he owns everyone), and his knowledge and ability in a wide range of games is enviable.
 
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Making friends on a similar level to you and talking about hands with them is really really huge. Also, poker forums like this one are an excellent resource. Watching videos - not just training videos, but also the unedited live streams of final tables they have with hole cards... that's really helpful too.

Cool. To that end, I do enjoy the live final table but sometimes I don't have time to sit at my laptop for 8 hours and watch a stream, especially when it's 4am here! I do like the EPT highlight shows that you can find on pokerstars.tv and those kind of things, but do you think there's much value to them beyond just the entertainment value?
 
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Most of my immediate family would not be supportive, and even my big (for me) wins don't seem to do much in convincing them. Since you know players who may have had a tuff time getting their family to get supportive, is their anything you can suggest?

I guess if you play online, there might be a way to show them that poker is just a series of calculated risks... maybe putting together a presentation using graphs and charts and the like might help?
 
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This is awesome! I hope one day i can play well enough to have financial freedom to volunteer more and help others!

What casino and where is your favorite place to play??

I hope you can too! I think so many poker players have so much going for them in terms of freedom and money and not enough of them use it to help the world. So I hope you do!

My favorite casino... hmm, I think my favorite place to play in general would be Las Vegas, since nowadays I really feel at home there. But I guess my favorite casino would still be Mohegan Sun. I got started playing live in CT, and I've just had unreal results at Mohegan, so it's hard to argue with that.
 
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Will you consider becoming a regular here at CardsChat?

Not the typical troll filled forum for sure.

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Hi Vanessa,

Its such a privilege for the community here to be able to ask a truly world class player such as yourself questions in such an open format; allow me to heap a little more thanks/praise onto the already high amount collecting within the thread....

1) You seem to have shifted earlier in your career from a predominantly cash pro to an MTTer/live MTTer with great aplomb.....your unique talents seem perhaps better suited for crushing large buy in MTTs than sitting around bumb hunting and grinding fractions of BB's against other NLH pros...can you discuss the concept of value with regards to the two dominant forms of poker right now....those being MTTs and 6 max NLH ring games....with attention to where newcomers or beginning players might be best served devoting their energies assuming they are playing to be profitable eventually.

Thanks for the heaps of praise, I never stop appreciating it :)

As far as the age-old cash vs. MTT question... I'm a firm believer in the idea that you should learn cash before you learn MTTs. A lot of MTT players that are great at online are not that good live because they just don't have the deep-stacked experience which is vital to the big buy-in MTTs. All of the world class MTT players that I know are excellent cash players as well, and most of them started in cash where they learned to play really creatively with deep stacks.

2) As a sometime aspiring mixed games player I find it quite frustrating that right now it is impossible for me to hone Badugi variant and many limit draw game variants skills given the present situation in the US. I know for folks out west live play can/is an option, but the only regular mix remotely close to me currently is a 40-80 HORSE outside of Chicago that maybe runs 2x a week and offers no draw games per Illinois gaming rules/.

Do you have any advice, books, training videos that stand out as being especially indispensable to someone such as myself trying to not lose too much ground in the mean time....

Do you think it is wise of me to even still think of myself as someone who will play mixed games at some point??

This is just a really tough question, and I wish I had a better answer for you. I've been trying to play mixed online as much as possible when I leave the country - but if you're stationed in the US, I guess books and videos would be the best approach. I didn't really use those so I don't have recommendations for you, unfortunately.

3) I took an Lsat cold at my father's behest about 9.5 yrs back and busted a 171. This wasn't that surprising because I aced the verbal portion of the SAT as a 15/16 yr old and had always excelled at standardized testing. Im 30 years old and retraining/working part time right now bc the recession hit my livelihood especially hard, but several important people in my life nag me about possibly attending Law School. Im not crazy about the idea, but on top of the Lsat score I have a very strong connection to Penn and probably could get admitted there.

What are the top 4 things to consider for someone like me who is fortunate enough to have a fairly clear path to a top 15 Law School?

I think the main thing to consider is whether you actually want a legal career or not, and what you want to do when you leave. So many people go into law school thinking they will figure it out when they get there, but the career services people aren't that great at helping with that. They're great at providing opportunities for those who know what they want, but that's a different animal. So a lot of people end up in law school and leave more lost than when they came, or they figure out they didn't really want to practice law in the first place and waste 3 years and $150k for a cool degree.

I was different as I knew very clearly what I wanted to do, but figured out I'd rather do poker. Still though I took a lot of courses focused specifically on the practice of civil rights and human rights litigation and made the most out of the resources there, so now I feel very prepared if I ever want to go that route.
 
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Hi Vanessa, thanks for your time today.
What was your thought process during the AK v AT hand with Shaun Deeb?

Ha, that was a brain fart at the end. I'd been playing pretty tight and showing up with the goods, and I 3bet the flop thinking I could just end the hand if I was ahead and potentially get Shaun to fold some things he was raising the flop for value with. When he shoved I thought it didn't make sense with anything but AT and even then he shouldn't think I should have a value hand to call him that doesn't beat AT... so I leveled myself into calling. But while all that is true and I shouldn't be able to call him much worse than AT, the fact of the matter is with ICM and the way he was playing, he's not often bluffing off his stack in that spot, and so my call was very bad.
 
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OK everyone, I've had fun but I have to leave now. Thanks to everyone for the questions... I really appreciate the level of thought that went into them!
 
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Thank you so much I appreciate your time!
 
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Hi Vanessa! I just wanted to thank you for taking time out of your day to chat with us. It's been great reading your responses, and getting to know you a little better. You always make any table fun to watch ("What will she do next??" :D), but now I have a whole new found respect for the the person as well. Thanks again!

Who do you think is your toughest competition pro wise? I imagine there is a core group of players that you play against regularly. Is there any one "regular" (besides Ivey) who really makes your decisions at the table harder, or is harder to figure out?
 
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NO, thank you Vanessa

Be well...
 
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Thank you very much Vanessa, Hopefully you will have some time to play a game with us CardsChat members in the near future. :D
 
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Dax, is she going to tell us what number she is in the Bovada game, or is that a secret?
 
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