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I've roughly checked this theory using my hand histories on 888 poker. Verdict: can't confirm it 🙂

Hundreds likely thousands of smarter players then any of us, with much higher IQ's and master degrees in math/stats have been looking for things like this for 20+ years if it existed as a thing there would already be a thread 1000's of pages long with a ton of evidence in it.

Threads like this shouldn't be allowed to exist. Just ruins a good forum and wastes everyone's time. But hey worth a laugh I guess.

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Hundreds likely thousands of smarter players then any of us, with much higher IQ's and master degrees in math/stats have been looking for things like this for 20+ years if it existed as a thing there would already be a thread 1000's of pages long with a ton of evidence in it.

Threads like this shouldn't be allowed to exist. Just ruins a good forum and wastes everyone's time. But hey worth a laugh I guess.

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But gg poker already shows that bad things are possible!
 
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But gg poker already shows that bad things are possible!
If you needed GG poker to show you bad things happen then you've already lost long ago. I agree bad things happen they happen everywhere, to everyone and in all aspects of life.

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But gg poker already shows that bad things are possible!
Also you play at one of the scummiest poker sites on the internet. That's poor decision making on your part. If GG was my only option I'd quickly find a casino or home game to play weekly or bi-weekly. One's responsible for their own decisions.

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Hundreds likely thousands of smarter players then any of us, with much higher IQ's and master degrees in math/stats have been looking for things like this for 20+ years if it existed as a thing there would already be a thread 1000's of pages long with a ton of evidence in it.
Have you ever heard of someone looking at this specific thing? It's not exactly something that someone with a background in math/stats would think of checking. Nor is it something that certification companies check for when certifying RNGs. If you do know of some people that have looked at this specific thing, I would love to hear from them.
 
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I've roughly checked this theory using my hand histories on 888 poker. Verdict: can't confirm it 🙂
Did you try both with full orbits (ex. Big blind to big blind the next time) and after three hands?
 
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I've roughly checked this theory using my hand histories on 888 poker. Verdict: can't confirm it 🙂

I hope you're joking :( (HUGE waste of time :( ) ... just like my reading of this thread (although mildly amusing/entertaining but mostly just sad)
 
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you 2 lovebirds seem to have some history,

please

to: i l p : the other dude got a point. you never noticed online poker seems kinda different ? yeah caus it is.. whats the problem for all the major labels to add real people with real cards and do a livecam. cant be done in 2024?! ah yeah
or maybe less profit ? (caus of the salary LuL)
 
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I hope you're joking :( (HUGE waste of time :( ) ... just like my reading of this thread (although mildly amusing/entertaining but mostly just sad)
Hint: it is not on 888
 
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Have you ever heard of someone looking at this specific thing? It's not exactly something that someone with a background in math/stats would think of checking. Nor is it something that certification companies check for when certifying RNGs. If you do know of some people that have looked at this specific thing, I would love to hear from them.

The type of people we're talking about over 20+ years think of everything to look for cause it could mean them making millions of $$$. So I guess you think those companies are looking at nothing then....they check pretty much everything about the RNG. I believe it's done yearly.

So now that we've reached page 2 and you got basically called out as batshit crazy now you're worried about evidence and want me to provide it so you don't look batshit crazy. That's not how it works. It's innocent till proven guilty so you should have had real evidence before even posting this thread.

So yes I'd love to see some real evidence of what you claim exists. I'll wait while you look because the burden of proof is on you not me or anyone else.

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good luck all poker friends dont argue life is nice etc
 
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The type of people we're talking about over 20+ years think of everything to look for cause it could mean them making millions of $$$. So I guess you think those companies are looking at nothing then....they check pretty much everything about the RNG. I believe it's done yearly.

So now that we've reached page 2 and you got basically called out as batshit crazy now you're worried about evidence and want me to provide it so you don't look batshit crazy. That's not how it works. It's innocent till proven guilty so you should have had real evidence before even posting this thread.

So yes I'd love to see some real evidence of what you claim exists. I'll wait while you look because the burden of proof is on you not me or anyone else.

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Why would I want to serve you up and spoon feed you? What's in it for me?
 
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Why would I want to serve you up and spoon feed you? What's in it for me?

You get to look not batshit crazy and like you actually know how to do some critical thinking.

There's nothing in this thread for me but the entertainment and laughs your providing. Which really is the only thing this thread is good for at this point.

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You get to look not batshit crazy and like you actually know how to do some critical thinking.

There's nothing in this thread for me but the entertainment and laughs your providing. Which really is the only thing this thread is good for at this point.

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That's great for you, because that's as much as you are going to get from me. There's a bunch of members like you that just sit around and expect to be served up with a whole package to review and judge, but why would I want to do that? Why would I spend hundreds of hours to put all of that together? To have a certain reputation on a chat forum? If I confirm something that works 100 percent of the time, you can be sure I will not be sharing that with any of you. Either do your own homework or have a good laugh. It doesn't matter to me.
 
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It's not my homework. It was actually yours and you failed to to it before posting. It's not up to me to prove anyone innocent. Not my fault you've never heard of innocent till proven guilty. But that's how it works.

It's ok I knew you didn't know where to look. And even if I told you wouldn't do the work required to educate yourself anyway. Hundreds hours? More like you could spend a lifetime looking and never find the evidence you need. It simply doesn't exist.

Every time you reply with your silliness I and likely everyone laughs more and more.

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It's not my homework. It was actually yours and you failed to to it before posting. It's not up to me to prove anyone innocent. Not my fault you've never heard of innocent till proven guilty. But that's how it works.

It's ok I knew you didn't know where to look. And even if I told you wouldn't do the work required to educate yourself anyway. Hundreds hours? More like you could spend a lifetime looking and never find the evidence you need. It simply doesn't exist.

Every time you reply with your silliness I and likely everyone laughs more and more.

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Wow, from reading what you had to type, it really does sound like you never bothered to read the first post of this thread or to even try to comprehend the purpose of the thread. But now that's exactly what I expect from you moving forward. A bunch of assumptions about other members and what they do and don't know. Have fun laughing in your little basement bedroom.
 
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I'm thinkin' you could change your screen name to RNGenius
 
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I am playing at 888 for a few days now, and nobody else is seeing this stuff?

Screenshots in groups of 2, 3 hands apart.

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Another one...

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Another one...

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This isn't the only possible outcome, depending on what happens in a particular hand. There's a few other factors in play, but really nobody thinks this is odd? If you just keep track of what players get involved 3 hands apart, the one to the left of the winner 3 hands ago shows up at a much higher frequency than others.
 
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If this is variance messing with my head, and I am the only one seeing this stuff in my games only, then this is really messed up because not only am I still seeing this, but the games are now somehow putting me in situations where I don't benefit from any of these coincidences, because in my most recent games my neighbour on the right is either sitting out or is just never winning. I just get to see other players hit their draws.
 
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WPTG, 3 hands apart, calls a 8bb 4bet raise with Q9o and hits. This is the current CC freeroll but still, same thing.

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And again I am seated between two sit-outs.

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Another one from WPTG

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Wow!
I reviewed this thread & now looking at the screenshots you've posted... I can see it!!! OMFG so fk'n rigged!!!!

Sorry man. I admit it. You were right all along.
 
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