Showing A Bluff - Opinions

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I think showing a bluff is ok but don't act like a douche bag and move on with the next hand. That way you have people at the table second guessing themselves as they now know you will bluff.
 
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I think showing a bluff as part of a plan is great, but showing it in arroagance just to say "hah i'm better than you cause i bluffed you" is a bit assish sure.

I once bluffed a nice pot with a 27 and showed, got some respect and one guy at the table actually ousted my plan when he said lol now all you gotta do is sit back and play the nuts and get paid haha.

Dam I love poker, can't wait to sit in a real live game again....just don't know when that will be :(
 
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I know with the guy being Vietnamese it may have been hard to understand all of what he was saying, or you might not remember his exact words so much as the circumstances. If you did, I would be interested in knowing exactly what it was that the Vietnamese guy was screaming and shouting. To me that would make a big difference in the way that I am going to react.

To me there is nothing wrong with showing a bluff. In fact, if I suspect that I might have been bluffed, then I hope they show it. I don't find someone me a bluff to be the least bit insulting. And although people who whooping and hollering over winning a pot gets on my nerves, it's not something that I'm going to punch someone in the head over. At the same time there are some things that I won't tolerate. And if in their screaming and shouting they happen to scream and shout the wrong words, I'm going to try to loosen up some of their teeth.

While some people will respond by calling the police and pressing charges and filing law suits, others will realize that they crossed the line and it had consequences. Which is why I am curious as to what the Vietnamese man mentioned in the OP said. I have to wonder if he realized that he crossed the line and accepted the repercussions of his actions.
 
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Think they are trying to operate their table image by showing the hands
and if they have anything they will get paid easily.

PS: I did not see any reason Not to call police, showing hands is not insult even the trash hands.
 
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Definitely depends on the situation for me. If I'm in a run of cards where maybe I am raising a lot of hands preflop I may show just so someone is not so quick to ignore my raise thinking there's no way anyone could hit that many hands and let them no I'm not just bullying. That is just one way I may use the show button. It can definitely be used to an advantage at portraying a table image.
 
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walked around the table, held out his right hand to shake the hand of the guy next to me. Once hands clasped, buddy caved in the bluffers face with one huge left fist. He hung on to the hand keeping the guy from falling and said "You can win money off me any time, but don't ever insult me."

My thought to the other guy "Well played".

1) The guy is a piece of trash. Kick his sorry ass out of the casino.
2) You're even more pathetic to condone such scumbag behavior.
 
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The decision hinges on the (positive) emotional value of showing the bluff versus the (negative) value of giving away information.

Positive examples include looking cool on TV to build a fan base, tilting an emotionally unstable opponent into making worse average decisions in the future, and having fun.

Negatives of showing a bluff are that solid players glean information from any outlying tendency you took in the hand. Maybe your bet size on the turn was larger than it normally is and you bluff that way. Maybe you leaned forward as your opponent considered calling your bluff. Either way, a great player will remember parts of the hand that you might have missed and will use them against you in the future of the match.

Punching someone is not within the rules of the game, or even the law, so that bit is pretty cut and dry. Strategically, you're going to get banned from the casino and certainly kicked out of the game. Ethically, it's pretty ridiculous to get that upset over losing a game in which you volunteered to participate.
 
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it's up to you, my thoughts on showing bluffs.

it makes it more likely people will play back at you, so in the future we really have to be showing up with good hands more often, i think it takes future bluffing spots away from us, but it also takes future steal spots away from us, people basically think we are full of shit more often, it's not neccessarily a good thing if we plan on being aggressive and chipping up in low risk small pots. we also have no idea how someone will react to that, it's setting ourselves up for metagame nonsense when there is no need to be overthinking things.
 
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I sometimes think showing a bluff could pressure your enemy to also play more weaker hands so you play a game with he's mind and show him you not afraid to put in a bluff . playing to tight kills ya at the end anyway so why not stick it in the guy he's brains and tell him without words that he needs to watch it

Psychology first part off poker
 
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Personally, I would never show any bluff to anyone. Poker is a game of information and show your hand is giving free information. Only show if they pay you to show. Anything else just muck.
 
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only if you want change your image on table but in my opinion the best thing is no show bluffs...and play as unobtrusive as possible
 
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If you think showing a bluff is insulting to the player who was bluffed out of the pot, you may want to play a different game lol.

I usually don't show, but if my image needs it I will. I never show just to "prove I'm better" or anything.
 
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u can show the bluff but I would not, isnt necessary to show it even if u think u should show it :)
 
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I think bluffs shouldn't be shown, because if we do this it means our EGO is happening and that can cost us a lot of chips!
 
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Poker is part of the lie, or make believe that you have a strong hand .. having nothing, especially when they steal the blinds, in my country there is a game called trick where often lying to win by points .. that's called .. the ugly trick is when one gets angry spoiled .. becomes aggressive when you discover you lied ..
 
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I rarely show bluffs but at some points if you think it will give you an advantage later than showing a bluff is perfectly alright! Really I just dont like showing my cards PERIOD! But I will accasionally if I think its going to throw somebody off or atleast make them think too much about it!
 
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I rarely ever show bluffs if ever at all. I was playing a 1/2 game in AC and my very first hand flopped two pair and got reraised all in by a maniac. Put him on a hand that i knew he had and he ended up rivering a runner runner straight. Later on the same guy kept making plays on me whenever I raised. I only had a few hands left because I was supposed to go out to dinner with my girlfriend and I decided I just wanted to take this guys chips. Next prime hand I had I raised he Re raises (typical) I decided to smooth call and just push no matter what the flop was and did exactly that. Villain thinks about it with a little over $100 in the pot then folds angrily. I flip over my bluff right as my girlfriend (looking like a smokeshow) walks up to the table and asks if im ready to go. Looked at the villain and said "thanks for dinner" and walked away.
Felt like a boss!
 
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showing a few bluffs is setting up for monster pots when the HAND comes...I agree he should b kicked out casino on spot,sent to jail for assault..everyone that's ever played poker has been made the fool at some point......
 
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I never bluff! But if I did I would certainly show it if I thought it would upset my opponent.

I do find a lot of posters on this site really precious. You call an all-in and then reckon that the other player doesn't have to show his cards...

You don't want to upset him, but you're trying to take all his money!
 
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In my opinion if you show a bluff you give your opponents a chance to read you. How does it work? Psychologically, they have thought something else of you, and if you show the cards first you are not showing just to the guy you win but showing it to the whole table, and all of them change the concept they had on you. If you gets everybody attention, everyone will be trying desperately to read you to kick your @#%ing ass, and eventually they will get it done, unless you know it's coming and act towards it (if you do that you are a winner). There's sure at least one smart guy in every table, so watch out.
 
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I love showing a bluff it throws people of their game and i love watchin them bet like they normally wouldn't.
 
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I play a lot at the same venue and so know quite a few of the players i play with. That being said that, I know that throwing down 2 7 on a bluff to claim a decent pot will almost always be received by laughs all around the table, and if you're not playing for the enjoyment then why are you there? Strategically, if you know how to show a bluff to change people's perception of your style of play and use it to your advantage later on then it's definitely a good idea. If you're doing it to just to gloat to your opponent like an ass then you're a bloody idiot that shouldn't be playing.
 
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I do not like to show a bluff if I had a huge chip stack like 150,000 and everyone else has around 25,000 short stacked.it's pretty obvious I can try a bluff and if I lose I would still in good shape.I think it's disrespectful,but it could put a short stack on tilt and call a premium hand if you pushed it also.
 
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I watched an old episode of a WPT final table this morning where Phillipe the Frenchman played Mad Man Marvin the German. One of the first hands in heads-up the Frenchman showed Marvin the bluff.

What are your opinions on doing this? I think it's despicable personally. I like to take anyone's money, but this is a downright insult IMHO.

When I was at one of my first casino cash games, a Vietnamese guy was sitting to my right, a big gambler and liked to play lots of hands. There was this one pot where 4 players were in big, and by the River, only the guy next to me and a guy across were left in, when my neighbour shoved into what had to be a $600 pot. The other guy took a long time before folding and the Vietnamese guy jumped up, started screaming and shouting and ceremoniously threw down 7-2 face up that was beaten by the board. The other got up with a smile on his face, walked around the table, held out his right hand to shake the hand of the guy next to me. Once hands clasped, buddy caved in the bluffers face with one huge left fist. He hung on to the hand keeping the guy from falling and said "You can win money off me any time, but don't ever insult me."

He went back to his seat, handed the dealer enough cash to top off his stack to $200 and played on. The pit boss asked the bleeding guy if he wanted the cops called, he said no, but I'd appreciate it if you could have a cab called to get me to hospital.

My thought to the other guy "Well played".

What a sore loser. People are just dumb when it comes down to it. You lost, be a man with character and just take it. You don't punch someone in the face....

In general when I play online i don't like showing my bluffs. You have to remember, people are building statistics on you with software....why would I want to voluntarily add information to that database?

the only exception is when I am heads up. In that case, my opponent already knows that I could have pretty much anything since the heads up range of hole cards played is so much wider than in a 10 handed game.
 
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What the player did punch him, I think it is the worst.
I hate people who think they can not do these things, as in the futboll a good move if you think these other making fun.
What did the poker player's game of mental strategy.
 
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