FWIW, there are all sorts of quirks to live play and this was just one of them. It'll no doubt take a few sessions to get used to them, and as you've identified, the important thing is just that you learn from each session.
There's quite a few regular live players on here so never be afraid to come on and ask questions if you need to
I would call the flop btw.
in my mind pot odds played out though, lets just say it was a stupid question because it shouldve been an instafold and thought process was down lol. Good thing i left after that hand, the dealer could have spread the pot or told me he could have done so. Im sure he has dealt with worse then that. Next time i shall just pay full attention to stuff like that.
I wonder if live poker will come to digital chips on the table instead of physical ones to keep the table free from a big mess.
We have a casino like that around here, but every table game is electronic(no dealers at all). Just seems weird to me...may as well just stay home if its gonna be digital. I mean it blurs the line just a bit.
Yea, but you get more hands/hour. Fastest I heard of live was about 32/hour, and I have seen 50+/hour on 10 handed electronic pokertek tables. I have played at tables where they had less than 22 hands/hour.
You don't have a dealer to tip, so that saves about $4-10/hour depending on how you tip.
You see just as many tells, although different, at the electronic tables as with dealer/chips/cards.
I have found the electronic table to be just as talkative/quiet as a regular table. It all depends on the situation and people.
speaking of tipping, what is good tip size according to profits as a standard
Hmm, don't have access to legal live games near me so just play online. IMO if you finish at a lose I don't think a tip is necessary, though it is "bad form" not to leave something, say 5% of starting buy in sounds decent. If you win I might suggest the 5% plus at least 5% of winnings if under a set amount (say $500 on a $500 buy in) then increase a percentage at a predetermined amount that you decide.
So buy in for $500 means a minimum tip of $25 for any profit/loss under $500 (what you leave the table at). for every $100 profit made you increase by $5.
Same buy in and leave with say $1,850 is $25 on 1st $500 then $63 for remaining $1,350 for a total of $88. Of course these amounts can vary according to your preference, but the tips are pooled in a casino, a good tipper may get benefits from the staff (calls from the card room supervisor letting you know when there are fishy tables, for example). No one is required to tip and I really don't think dealers can do anything about it if you don't (assuming they are honest, which I believe every reputable casino or card room is).
Not to go too off track or anything, but since the thread is on the same path I'll take a stab. I've been waiting out the lingering U.S. poker ban and have done a search, and well, ended up here. I'm thinking about going to the casino, just to give it a try, so my question is: How do you tip a dealer? Do you just slide/toss him/her over chip(s) after you grab your winning pot? How doe's he/she know that you're not posting the small or big blind if you're in position to do so?
speaking of tipping, what is good tip size according to profits as a standard
Yeah, its not cheap playing live poker. I would probably tip less if I was doing it professionally.
Are you saying you tip less live? I was accused (granted it was a drunk guy) of being tight with my tipping.
I think its comes to more like $35-50 in tips/hour then rake is $2-5/hand *32 hands/hour so about $100-150/hour rake.
I played about 25 hours last week and made about $300, so that's about $12/hour (not that great) oh and they comp you $1/hour food credit. I guess if I didn't tip at all I would have made $17/hour or so which would have been another $125 in my pocket.
This was in Las Vegas BTW (MGM and Tropicana) and I was on a business trip, just playing recreationally.
Tipping should not be on profits it should be on time. The dealers usually understand if you are stuck and short stacked and don't tip a lot, but you still should tip.
cool thanks that makes better sense then going by profit.
If you are only winning small pots, you should be tipping about $2/30min (They usually switch dealers every 30 min), more if you are winning pots $50+. For really large pots ($200+) I usually go with about 1% of the pot.
If I get a bad dealer, one who makes a lot of mistakes or generally is surly or has a bad attitude I will only tip them $1/30min plus $1 for large pots.
If they are really good and/or entertaining and making the game loose, not berating bad play etc. I tip them more. Some times as much as $1 every pot I win even it its only $10 in the pot.