OMG lets try this again, 10nl - 50nl+ challenge.

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bigger on the flop please, then bigger on turn then get moneys on river
 
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obvs when he raises the river we fold.. coz im guessing thats what happens and basically what Acky says :)
 
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I hate betting,
I hate c/c,

But this is when were up against a 100bb stack.
This is one of those instances were sammy farha would go, "lets chop it"...
 
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- run better than jchoop

achieved!

pokerstars - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

CO: $25.35
BTN: $9.65
Hero (SB): $26.68
BB: $38.59
UTG: $15.63
UTG+1: $25.00
MP: $25.50
MP+1: $33.61

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 5h 5s

fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $0.75, fold, Hero calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25, 3 players) 2s 5c Ac
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $1.25, Hero raises to $3.50, BB raises to $11.50, fold, Hero raises to $25.93 and is all-in, BB calls $14.43

Turn: ($55.36, 2 players) 6c

River: ($55.36, 2 players) 5d

Hero shows 5h 5s (Four of a Kind, Fives) (Pre 82%, Flop 30%, Turn 20%)
BB shows 4c 3c (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 18%, Flop 70%, Turn 80%)
Hero wins $53.36

PokerStars - $0.25 PL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: $37.31
SB: $25.00
BB: $28.18
UTG: $54.00
Hero (MP): $28.31
CO: $25.05

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Qs Qd

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, BB raises to $2.25, Hero raises to $5.00, BB raises to $15.10, Hero raises to $28.31 and is all-in, BB calls $13.08 and is all-in

Flop: ($56.46, 2 players) 2s Qc Ts

Turn: ($56.46, 2 players) As

River: ($56.46, 2 players) Th

BB shows Kd Kc (Two Pair, Kings and Tens) (Pre 82%, Flop 11%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows Qs Qd (Full House, Queens full of Tens) (Pre 18%, Flop 89%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins $54.46

PokerStars - $0.25 PL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

UTG: $7.88
UTG+1: $6.05
MP: $25.00
CO: $15.81
BTN: $9.65
Hero (SB): $25.10
BB: $34.55

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Ah Kh

fold, fold, MP raises to $0.75, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.25, fold, MP raises to $4.75, Hero raises to $14.50, MP raises to $25.00 and is all-in, Hero calls $10.50

Flop: ($50.25, 2 players) Kd 9h 2h

Turn: ($50.25, 2 players) Th

River: ($50.25, 2 players) 8d

Hero shows Ah Kh (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 50%, Flop 68%, Turn 100%)
MP shows Ks As (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 50%, Flop 32%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins $48.25

PokerStars - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

UTG: $10.14
UTG+1: $16.09
Hero (MP): $29.18
CO: $25.15
BTN: $8.07
SB: $33.61
BB: $27.85

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Ad Js

UTG calls $0.25, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, fold, SB raises to $3.00, fold, fold, Hero calls $2.00

Flop: ($6.50, 2 players) 4s 9d Jd
SB checks, Hero bets $3.25, SB calls $3.25

Turn: ($13.00, 2 players) 8c
SB bets $8.00, Hero raises to $22.93 and is all-in, SB calls $14.93

River: ($58.86, 2 players) 2s

SB shows Ac Qs (High Card, Ace) (Pre 74%, Flop 15%, Turn 16%)
Hero shows Ad Js (One Pair, Jacks) (Pre 26%, Flop 85%, Turn 84%)
Hero wins $56.86

PokerStars - €0.25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

Hero (BB): €25.00
UTG: €29.78
UTG+1: €50.04
UTG+2: €25.00
MP: €27.11
MP+1: €11.51
CO: €11.28
BTN: €9.65
SB: €9.11

SB posts SB €0.10, Hero posts BB €0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.35) Hero has 9s Qd

UTG raises to €0.75, UTG+1 calls €0.75, fold, MP calls €0.75, MP+1 calls €0.75, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls €0.50

Flop: (€3.85, 5 players) Td Kc Jd
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP bets €3.68, fold, Hero raises to €8.00, fold, fold, MP raises to €26.36 and is all-in, Hero calls €16.25 and is all-in

Turn: (€52.35, 2 players) 6d

River: (€52.35, 2 players) 2d

Hero shows 9s Qd (Flush, Queen High) (Pre 25%, Flop 11%, Turn 23%)
MP shows Qs As (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 75%, Flop 89%, Turn 77%)
Hero wins €50.85

PokerStars - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: $11.50
Hero (BB): $25.00
UTG: $9.95
UTG+1: $28.87
MP: $26.85
CO: $25.00
BTN: $69.58

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has Qh Kh

fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.25, SB raises to $1.00, Hero calls $0.75, fold

Flop: ($2.25, 2 players) Qc 6h Ks
SB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Turn: ($5.25, 2 players) 3s
SB bets $3.75, Hero calls $3.75

River: ($12.75, 2 players) 9c
SB bets $5.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $5.25

SB shows Ac Ad (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 82%, Flop 26%, Turn 18%)
Hero shows Qh Kh (Two Pair, Kings and Queens) (Pre 18%, Flop 74%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins $22.20

PokerStars - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

BTN: $25.00
SB: $26.80
BB: $9.30
UTG: $24.30
UTG+1: $10.00
Hero (MP): $56.11
MP+1: $25.00
CO: $36.47

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 9c 9d

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, fold, CO calls $0.75, fold, fold, BB raises to $2.75, Hero calls $2.00, fold

Flop: ($6.35, 2 players) 2c 7h Qs
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($6.35, 2 players) 9s
BB bets $3.25, Hero raises to $7.00, BB calls $3.30 and is all-in

River: ($19.45, 2 players) 4c

BB shows Kd Ks (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 81%, Flop 92%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows 9c 9d (Three of a Kind, Nines) (Pre 19%, Flop 8%, Turn 95%)
Hero wins $18.57

...

up $350 for the day over like 3k hands (-$10 to Ducky bets) at 25nl and $490 for the month over 15k hands from being down like $150 10k hands ago.

no real spots to post except for one, I wanted to Hero a river with AK high with 4 to the straight on board in a 3bet pot.
 
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Great idea, im free if you want me to hold your hand!!

Dang, if I start a thread and claim to be bad (wait, not claim necessary), will people do live sweats and hold MY hand? :rolleyes: :D

Anyway subbin' in and GL and other such things!!
 
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merci choop!

anyway, played like 100 hands today with some fish friends sweating.. made 2bi and only really wondering about one spot:

poker stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Hold'em - 7 players - View hand 2018638
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Hero (BTN): $32.87
SB: $25.10
BB: $3.68
UTG: $29.45
UTG+1: $25.93
MP: $25.00
CO: $11.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with T :club: A :club:
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB raises to $2.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) T :heart: 4 :club: 3 :club: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $21.04, SB raises to $22.85 all in, Hero calls $1.81

Turn: ($50.45) 8 :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($50.45) T :spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

flat pre? + rest is obv standard.
 
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and spewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, why am I worse than Ducky now?

this is actually becoming a slight problem.

prob should've called river for info but sigh/fold was my initial response.

villain is a 20/10 bad reg over 400 hands, ST F3B 0, FCB 23, FTB 52, FRB 43?

..which makes it even worse.

had been stationing me in 3bet pots for 2 streets and folding rivers on wet/dry boards for the last hour on multiple tables.

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2018764
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BB: $9.75
UTG: $25.80
MP: $25.60
CO: $24.81
BTN: $23.82
Hero (SB): $26.26

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 9 :diamond: Q :diamond:
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) A :club: 7 :spade: 3 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $2.25, BTN calls $2.25

Turn: ($9.25) 8 :heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, BTN calls $4.50

River: ($18.25) J :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $13, BTN raises to $14.82 all in, Hero folds

berate me so I can stop lol.
 
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oh dear god, you need to work on your ranges, K8o and now Q9s, naughty!
 
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Q9s is a sick hand what you talking bout willis!
 
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nah he's right, my 3bet ranges are absolutely terrible and so are my flatting ranges vs steals.

something to work on now right?

edit: also made 26bi in the last 7.5k hands so 50nl is a lot closer than i thought.

BR: just short of 1k.
 
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I meant in general but i still like 3b'ing some of the time here and you are such a luckbox go away
 
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Lol folding the $1.82 extra.
 
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i know its so bad, I clicked fold before I thought about it!

its ok though, stacked him at 2 other tables so ;)
 
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When you say stacked you mean got it in bad again and sucked out :)
 
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standard?

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 2020809
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG+1: $54.79
MP1: $25.00
MP2: $10.84
CO: $29.49
BTN: $25.00
SB: $70.92
BB: $26.57
Hero (UTG): $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with 9 :spade: K :spade:
Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 2 :club: A :diamond: A :spade: (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, MP2 folds, BB raises to $2.60, Hero raises to $5.75, BB folds

Final Pot: $7.55
Hero mucks 9 :spade: K :spade:
Hero wins $7.21
(Rake: $0.34)
 
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Think you would flat your Ax hands here after he c/r's but he is probs bad so seems fine to me :)
 
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merci choop!

anyway, played like 100 hands today with some fish friends sweating.. made 2bi and only really wondering about one spot:

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Hold'em - 7 players - View hand 2018638
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Hero (BTN): $32.87
SB: $25.10
BB: $3.68
UTG: $29.45
UTG+1: $25.93
MP: $25.00
CO: $11.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with T <font color='black'>♣</font> A <font color='black'>♣</font>
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB raises to $2.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.75) T <font color='red'>♥</font> 4 <font color='black'>♣</font> 3 <font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $21.04, SB raises to $22.85 all in, Hero calls $1.81

Turn: ($50.45) 8 <font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($50.45) T <font color='black'>♠</font> (2 players - 1 is all in)

flat pre? + rest is obv standard.

i honestly dont like flat pre cos your hand is like completely crushed (but i still call cos im IP and its sooooooooooted)

and stacking flop is totally not std imo, personally i think its spew. theres like 1 worse FD that he can be stacking and thats all you beat, and you obv have zero FE. i definitely prefer bet/call OTF, then call, call

standard?

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 2020809
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UTG+1: $54.79
MP1: $25.00
MP2: $10.84
CO: $29.49
BTN: $25.00
SB: $70.92
BB: $26.57
Hero (UTG): $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with 9 <font color='black'>♠</font> K <font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.75, 3 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 2 <font color='black'>♣</font> A <font color='red'>♦</font> A <font color='black'>♠</font> (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, MP2 folds, BB raises to $2.60, Hero raises to $5.75, BB folds

Final Pot: $7.55
Hero mucks 9 <font color='black'>♠</font> K <font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero wins $7.21
(Rake: $0.34)

yaa nh wp
 
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i honestly dont like flat pre cos your hand is like completely crushed (but i still call cos im IP and its sooooooooooted)

and stacking flop is totally not std imo, personally i think its spew. theres like 1 worse FD that he can be stacking and thats all you beat, and you obv have zero FE. i definitely prefer bet/call OTF, then call, call

fold > 4bet > flat?

why am I crushed? obv he shows an overpair 100% of the time but I dunno why the flat pre's so bad..

yeah flop prob was bad, we folding turns when we brick? dunno how many bluffs he has tbh.
 
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right I got some more hands for you guys.. one might be spew, and ones probably just straight bad, so here you go.

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 2021817
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BTN: $18.94
SB: $10.10
BB: $23.65
UTG: $6.21
UTG+1: $25.95
Hero (MP1): $28.56
MP2: $11.10
CO: $31.05

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP1 with 8 :heart: 8 :club:
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 raises to $1, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, BTN calls $1, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($4.35) 7 :heart: 8 :spade: Q :spade: (4 players)
UTG bets $5.21 all in, UTG+1 calls $5.21, Hero calls $5.21, BTN folds

Turn: ($19.98) K :spade: (3 players - 1 is all in)
UTG+1 bets $9.50, Hero calls $9.50

River: ($38.98) 9 :spade: (3 players - 1 is all in)
UTG+1 bets $10.24 all in, Hero folds

I flatted flop with the plan of jamming over all brick turns since with the price he's getting he has to call off with his Qx and overpair hands.. didn't plan for a spade, but he never really has a FD that often so call on the turn I think is standard.

just wondering whether he folds to me stacking on the flop with Qx?

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 2021815
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UTG+2: $28.22
MP1: $18.48
MP2: $29.18
Hero (CO): $32.48
BTN: $17.25
SB: $29.35
BB: $35.90
UTG: $25.00
UTG+1: $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with T :diamond: 9 :spade:
UTG calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.25) Q :spade: 5 :heart: 8 :diamond: (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB calls $1.75, UTG calls $1.75

Turn: ($8.50) A :club: (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $5, SB folds, UTG calls $5

River: ($18.50) 5 :diamond: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $11, UTG folds

this one's my spew of the day (possibly)

reads are: EP limper is a reg fish, he does this with all small PP's and suited A's
so i'm isoing with ATC since I can play perfectly against him IP.
other caller out of the blinds is a reg.. but he folds like Qx on the turn except for AQ obv.
regfish that limp called from EP never has a 5 unless its A5s imo and normally has a weak Q or a weak A he reverse floated multiway..

so to sum up, their range is capped, and mine has a bunch of strong hands in and not too many that bluff multiple streets since I have SD with a lot of it.


..so guys, how bad am I?
 
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fold > 4bet > flat?

why am I crushed? obv he shows an overpair 100% of the time but I dunno why the flat pre's so bad..

yeah flop prob was bad, we folding turns when we brick? dunno how many bluffs he has tbh.

not 3bing worse aces etc etc, unless hes one to 3b light with like AXs, in which case youre gunna still be super uncomfortable even when you flop the A

like i said though, im still calling, bc hes only going to bet flop as a bluff, if that, so his hand will be pretty face up by turn- in which case id probably bluff shove if i thought he could fold (not likely), or depending on stack sizes/pot odds id almost always call since you know hes never check/folding rivers just cos a flush just came in.

and ye stacking flop is teh worst bc its allllways an overpair if he calls, and if he was airballing he was just gunna check fold turn anyway

as for what the best preflop line is, i honestly have no flippen idea
 
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