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I didn't listen to the interview (no time atm) but generally Tony G gets on my nerves and he hasn't been right on FTP yet. He just basically says a lot of stuff and hopes something sticks imo.
 
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No the 25nl was recent. He was being backed iirc. Basically he's a nit (think fx) who puts in tons of volume and really exploits the worse players found at the lowest stakes. His game breaks down as he moves up because people refuse to pay him off with his big hands. He does/did crush the low micros though and that's what got him the DtB deal. I have never watched any of his vids but I did read his coaching intro post over there back when I had a membership.

Blackrain79 is a DTB instructor who put out a 9 part series titled Crushing the Micros. The videos are definitely useful for starting players. A lot of it may seem mundane and his delivery is a little flat and nasally but he does offer a lot of really good insights into playing 2/5nl.

I will say this; I beat 2nl on Full Tilt for ~ 6bb/100 over 200k hands. When I moved to pokerstars I beat 5nl for 2bb/100 and when I tried to move up to 10nl I got crushed.

Like WV said, if you are beating the nano-micros consistently for a modest winrate you are doing so because the players around you really, really suck. As you move up the players don't suck as much. I couldn't beat 4nl on Carbon because I think there tons of 10nl & 25nl former Pokerstar Regs from the US there and I just wasn't offsetting the losses due to variance with big pots dragged from idiots.

That doesn't mean Blackrain is an idiot or his videos are worthless, only that they have limited utility. Remember that probablly 90%+ of players cannot even beat 2nl.

Imagine a race of intelligent, talking creatures that have no ocular organs and are born blind and spend their whole lives in a sightless world. Now imagine trying to describe the concept of color or depth perception to them. How would you do? No matter how intelligent they were you could never really describe yellow or the concept of perspective.

Some of us can beat 2nl/5nl because we live in a world of blind creatures and we can see but dimly, a world of shadows, muted colors and blurry objects. It is easy for us to take advantage of the blind but we don't do very well against those with 20/20 vision.

Unless we are willing to stay in the valley of the blind we will never be a king.

I don't hate poker. I just have figured out that in poker I am a one eyed troll.

If you can't beat a game for at least 4 or 5bb/ 100 you will be riding nothing more than the wave of variance. Between rake, downswings and tilt you have no chance of growing your bankroll unless you can beat the game for at least 5 or 6 bb.

Poker has validated that there are winners and losers in this world.

I am a loser.
 
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Some of this makes sense about the playing with bad players etc!

If you can't beat a game for at least 4 or 5bb/ 100 you will be riding nothing more than the wave of variance. Between rake, downswings and tilt you have no chance of growing your bankroll unless you can beat the game for at least 5 or 6 bb.

Pretty sure this is horribly wrong though, if you can beat any level of poker for 1bb/100, you arent riding anything, you are winning. If you cant handle variance then you may stop playing 1bb/100 and then lose your money
 
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fx you always bring the lolz...that example is great
 
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people, you just do not understand. fx is currently beating life for a lot more in terms of fun than anything he could ever achieve playing poker. if that is not a sound strategy, then i don't know what is :D
 
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too much run bad talk ITT, just run good its not hard
 
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Hey fx, you watching the NHL playoffs?
 
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people, you just do not understand. fx is currently beating life for a lot more in terms of fun than anything he could ever achieve playing poker. if that is not a sound strategy, then i don't know what is :D

Right.

I intellectually realize that I was in a month long downswing and that if I had kept playing it would have turned around.

But emotionally I realized that I didn't ever want to experience a prolonged downswing again. Maybe it's like being thrown from a horse or bit by a dog, where you develop an irrational fear that is impervious to reason, that my horrendous experience over the span of month has totally altered my view of the game. All I know is that when I was a money loser with KK after 90 times, that I ran into countless set over sets and lost a hundred times to 2 outers that I didn't want to ever go through it again. From April 20th until May 20th I got repeatedly beaten down, over and over again with only 3 decent days in that stretch until I finally couldn't take it anymore and tilted off the remainder of my bankroll.

At that point I had no option but to evaluate and reflect as I had told myself I would not re-deposit. I really dug down and determined that I stopped enjoying poker when I tried to move up to 10nl.

Once I made the conscious decision to quit, I felt liberated, free. The wicked witch was dead, the machines stopped trying to destroy Zion. the war was over, the stormy seas became calm. Since that moment I have had zero interest in playing.

I no longer impatiently sit through one of my kid's events thinking, I hope this ends soon, I'm itching to play. I no longer wake up on a Monday after a bad weekend of poker, I no longer stay up late at night trying to get in volume, earn my VPP's or clear a bonus. I no longer have to experience collecting the blinds 7 times in a row when I had AA and losing the next time to a 2 outer after all the money was in. I no longer have to experience the 11th time in a row that I missed my Flush. I no longer have to get all in w/ QQ vs a loose player who has AK and have the 1st card on the flop be an Ace, I no longer have to lose w/ AK to AQ when villain flops a pair of Queens and I flop squadoosh. I no longer am forced to see villain re-raise all in on the river because he slow played the nut Full House and I have the 2nd nut full house. I no longer have to experience the thousands of disappointments, aggravations and heartbreak that is poker. I don't want to play a game where I have to be a ninja, a stoic, a zen master, calmly accepting bad beats, smiling and thinking, nice hand, donkey. I no longer have to hold my hand over the flame of variance when my brain is screaming take your hand out of the fire, it is smells like steak! because to remove one's hand from the flame would be a sign that I was results oriented.

I am beating poker for an infinite winrate by saying; I don't need you, don't want you.
Hey fx, you watching the NHL playoffs?

I missed the 1st 2 games because they were on at bad times but I am watching Game 3 right now.
 
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No doubt its not hard. Put these guys at my table and Ill do the rest. Prob is two things. I cant play online, and two, I have to drive a long way with minimul time with my family on my days off to play. Sucks. Just sucks J.
 
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umm so game 3 of bruins canucks was amazing
 
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Nothing ruins your day more than a megafish who is running like god.
 
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i'm talking about all of it cept for the horton injury
 
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FX when I read your posts - post poker-breakdown, i think that its a good idea that you quit, if you ever ran half as bad as jagsti i think you'd be a danger to your local community! :)
 
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i'm talking about all of it cept for the horton injury
First period was pretty awesome, cept for that hit on Horton for sure. The rest seemed really boring, like Vancouver just decided to give up the game. The third was a complete shit show. If it wasnt for all the scrums in between whistles it would have been unwatchable imo.
 
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FX when I read your posts - post poker-breakdown, i think that its a good idea that you quit, if you ever ran half as bad as jagsti i think you'd be a danger to your local community! :)

No shit
 
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FX when I read your posts - post poker-breakdown, i think that its a good idea that you quit, if you ever ran half as bad as jagsti i think you'd be a danger to your local community! :)

let's say you had to have sex 100 days out of the year; no more, no less.

Now let's say out of those 100 days 5 were with the supermodel/ dream girl of your choice, 50 were with a pleasant looking but unremarkable girl, with a decent but not great body who was a little boring in the sack but got the job done. Then 30 days you had sex with a fat, homely, ugly broad who smelled like stale pee and moldy cheese, had horrible complexion, stringy hair, saggy breasts, cellulite and breath like the heifer pen in a dairy barn. For the final 15 days of the year you got anally raped by various prison convicts.

At the end of the year would you smile contentedly knowing you bagged a supermodel 5 times? Would you endure another year of sodomy and hag sex?

If the answer is yes, you probably can play poker long term.
 
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Do you lay there at night trying to fall asleep and come up with these things?
 
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let's say you had to have sex 100 days out of the year; no more, no less.

Now let's say out of those 100 days 5 were with the supermodel/ dream girl of your choice, 50 were with a pleasant looking but unremarkable girl, with a decent but not great body who was a little boring in the sack but got the job done. Then 30 days you had sex with a fat, homely, ugly broad who smelled like stale pee and moldy cheese, had horrible complexion, stringy hair, saggy breasts, cellulite and breath like the heifer pen in a dairy barn. For the final 15 days of the year you got anally raped by various prison convicts.

At the end of the year would you smile contentedly knowing you bagged a supermodel 5 times? Would you endure another year of sodomy and hag sex?

If the answer is yes, you probably can play poker long term.

7 June 2011
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Dear FX,

What the ****

Sincerely,
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Dear FX,

What the ****

Sincerely,
The Internet

Dissociative identity disorder is a psychiatric diagnosis and describes a condition in which a person displays multiple distinct identities or personalities (known as alter egos or alters), each with its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with the environment. In the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems the name for this diagnosis is multiple personality disorder. In both systems of terminology, the diagnosis requires that at least two personalities routinely take control of the individual's behavior with an associated memory loss that goes beyond normal forgetfulness; in addition, symptoms cannot be the temporary effects of drug use or a general medical condition.
 
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FX when I read your posts - post poker-breakdown, i think that its a good idea that you quit, if you ever ran half as bad as jagsti i think you'd be a danger to your local community! :)

Im pretty sure Fx is a danger to his local community already.

EDIT: ah forgot to refresh chat so people beat me to this.
 
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Whats up guys. Hope ya'all are well. No poker for this guy. Been a bit since I played. Had the opportunity to play today at Mohegan but decided to put my kids pool together and such. Took a bit. Damn slide and BBall hoop.

Been enjoying alot of time on the bike. Mariah rides a couple times a week with me as well. All in all not playing poker hasnt affected me much. Boy I tell ya I miss the luxury of sitting at night relaxing playing the game I love though. I cant say it'll kill me though. Spending alot of time with my family.

My son turns two this month and we got a big party planned. My one year wedding anniversary is this month as well on fathers day it so happens, so looking to do something nice for the wife.

Hope you all continue to be well. Tonight instead of watching the sox vs yanks game, my buddy and I are gonna bring 30 cases of bottled water over a couple towns to one of the hardest hit areas from the tornado last week. Look to talk more with you guys in the coming future.

PC69:)


Norm and the kids
 
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Tonight instead of watching the sox vs yanks game, my buddy and I are gonna bring 30 cases of bottled water over a couple towns to one of the hardest hit areas from the tornado last week

Thats a really cool thing to do man :)

Good karma for you!
 
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As long as it is not Pabst, you are doing the right thing PC :)
 
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