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| Please help me control my bad beat!!!! What are the advices for adjusting to bad beats? Yesterday, I was playing 5/10 and I was dealt pocket 6s(6s6h). Someone raised utg 6 times the blind with AKo(AcKh) two people called, I was small blind, I called because I had over 500 dollars worth of chips. Flop came out Kh 6c 7c. I hit my set while my opponent hit his TPTK(Top Pair, Top Kicker). I checked from small blind. Guy with AKo raises to 100 dollars, one guy called, I reraised all in slightly over 400. Person with AKo called while one of the callers folded because I squeezed him. Turn and River were both clubs. I lost to running flush. I took a break and re-buy in different table for 300 bucks in 5/10. I was dealt pocket 9s. I was in middle position and one of other middle positions raised with pocket Aces 5 times the blind. I called. Flop came out 9c 2s 5h. I was kinda relieved because they were all different suits and I won't be facing runner flush like last table unless someone had two same suits in their hand. He was overbetting his overpair by raising 10 times the blind. I smooth-called. During turn, 2h came out, giving me a boat(full house). He raised me 15 times the blind which puts me all in. I instant-called. He hits his Ace on the river. As I was walking out of casino, I literally kicked lot of trash bins out there. I also wanted to kill both of my dealers. I think I have mental problems. I honestly don't think I made any wrong plays. Some people might criticize my pre-flop play but as for flop-river play, I think I played everything perfectly. I couldn't sleep last night and I still can't get over these ridiculous back to back bad beats that happened within less than 2 hours yesterday. My bankroll is solid but I cannot get over this bad beat. What are some advices for relieving bad beats? I am to the point where I want to destroy the essence and game of poker or murder the dealers. I am sorry if I'm freaking everyone in this forum but as for my emotions for facing bad beats, that's how I feel right now. Anyone wanna give some advices on how to manage bad beats? |
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| Smoke some weed? But seriously just remember that you can still be beat even when your hand is strong. Your play was fine, though a little loose on the pocket sixes. I don't think killing the dealer will change the odds at all! |
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| Know how you feel. At my local casino, playing 1-2 NLH I was dealt 99 in middle position. I raised 5xBB and got 4 callers, including the small blind. The flop came 9-rag-rag giving me the nuts. The small blind surprised me by betting $100 - I had $150 left so I went all in. 3 folded and the SB mulled for awhile but with his larger stack decided to call. We didn't show the cards - the turn and river were T-K. I showed my 99's and then he turned over his TT. I then said good day and left (in the same manner as you did) and haven't been back since (over 1 month ago). This was just a continuation of losses suffered recently. I am taking a break from playing at the casino. |
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It's unbelievable how I can hit set twice within 2 hours in casino and get my whole bankroll flushed away to running cards or silly 2-outers. Just pisses me off. Just feels like God hates me or something. How can outers work for someone very often back to back? |
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| Wow those are some tough beats... and sort of back to back, that really sucks. It isn't much help now, but swings are common and taking a break for the night (maybe longer) is usually my approach. If that was your whole BR then I understand the major frustration you must be feeling. It sounds like you have a good grasp of the game. Keep it up and you'll beat the odds of getting sucked out on. "God hates no man/woman" |
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| wow That is truly unreal. I am sorry that happened to you. Two sets and both losses on the river. Sometimes when i get a really bad beat, I get frustrated and then i play at higher stakes and lose even more. I should really learn to just take a break and cool off. I think that is what everyone should do when taking a bad beat, just cool down and let things be for a little while. Find a place that will relax you. |
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| re: Please help me control my bad beat!!!! poker Let me enlighten you on something... When you are angrey or fustrated your whole game is affected. Poker isnt just about making the right plays! Poker is also the reading and hiding of emotions. Being able to analise the situations and to trick others into believing something that isnt real. When you lost your first buyin, I would have suggested that you go outside for a nice walk, maybe even finish up for the day and go to your girlfriends house. That way in the morning you would be ready for another game and wouldnt be on tilt. And eveeenn if you werent on tilt, you were angry and an angry player is a revealing player. |
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| I'm not going to tell you bad beats don't hurt because they do. But honestly speaking, you should be happy with yourself for being able to put all your money in the middle and getting someone to call in such bad shape. You were over 90% to win that hand after all the money hit the middle so you played that hand great. Try to look at the decisions and not the results. As long as the decisions are correct, the results will take care of themselves. Honestly, the only times you should be upset with poker or yourself is when you make bad decisions. So, yes, I know it's hard but forget actual results and look at the decision making. Be happy or upset based on that. |
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| I think you manage them quite well actually, you took a break after the first beat and than quit after the second. And of course you're feeling pissed I don't even play 5/10 and I feel angry after a beat so does everybody. Just don't keep playing when you're angry and don't kill the dealer |
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I always buy-in with 300. I manage to do well with it. If I reach anywhere near 1000, I stand up no matter what. That's how I've built my bankroll. In my first bad beat, I won 200 bucks from and then lost that + my buy-in to some donkey with TPTK. I know I don't have optimal or really good bankroll management but I'm still + because my initial bankroll was 20 bucks. I used my beginner's luck to build it. My first time in casino ever, I won 600 bucks with 20 bucks, I was flopping quads, boats, flushes, and was getting action from everyone and I kept moving up tables after reachign 4 times the buy-in. Instead of spending that 600 on leisure, I kept going there the next day and future and built it to almost 20k(highest I've reached). This took me 1.5 years and played nearly every weekend or once every 2 weeks. When I go to casino, I only carry 1k(which provides 2 buy-ins and 400 bucks left) or (3 buy-ins and 100 bucks left). I usually try to leave after losing two of my buy-ins. Once in a while, if I lose 2buy-ins, I spend 20-100 bucks by going to micro 1/1 NHLE $20 buy-in as a indicator of my status. If I lose several buy-ins from there, then it proves that I'm on tilt. If I'm winning from there, then I just keep playing. I'm a weird guy who plays in very unorthodox way compared to other people. But this is how I built it. I can't guarantee how long I'm gonna last using this method or keep doing well using this method. But so far, I like my way of managing bankroll. |
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Typo error. Not my "whole bankroll". I meant, my whole chipstack. Sorry for typo error. I'm not good with bankroll management but I'm not stupid enough to put up my whole entire bankroll on one buy-in, which is something that happened in Rounders. I've learned that from Rounders too. No matter how good you are, you can always get beat by anyone, regardless of their poker level. The hell, I've lost several times to my friend's friend's wife in friendly sng home game, who doesn't even know poker rankings because she calls with two overcards and hits her overcards or hits gutshot straights or hitting running trips. |
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| re: Please help me control my bad beat!!!! poker All you can do is get your money in with the best hand. But, take in mind their will always be bad beats in poker and you will always give them out, its the poker cycle of life. Cool down, take a break, you'll get over it. I remember receiving the worst possible bad beat, I actually am pretty sure statistically that its impossible for a beat to be worse. I took a very long break after that, you'll find your way back and forget everything. Well not forget... but not be as angry. |
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| Your play was good and nothing you can do can help you from avoiding bad beats. People always get lucky, but in the long run, you'll make your money. Emotional stability is vital to earning money in the poker world. Do anything, except play while tilted and you'll be fine. |
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| You have a very high-risk style. If you insist on keeping it, you very likely will go broke. If you can't accept that or it makes you crazy, only play with money that won't bother you to lose in the short run. Bad beats will happen; they are what keep worse players playing. If their bad play wasn't occasionally rewarded, they would quit. You should be able to laugh off these types of hands. If you can't, you are playing with too much money. I am sure you didn't really want to kill your dealers over less than $1,000, right? That wouldn't be worth it in the long run. |
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| You played it right but good skills get killed by luck sometimes, a hint: if you get a bad mood about bad beats make a break cause your game is affected by these moods not good going on with playing before you are mentaly balanced again, it happens to everyone of us bad beats over and over hard to stay cool at this time i know how you felt... |
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| I think most importantly patience and good nerves and go on to the only good maps for the small role is not important whether you are a professional or amateur, that does not exist as a poker game where you have to think. It is my opinion and experience |
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| if you dont got the absolute nuts in a hand than be prepared to be beat even with the best hand atm sometimes. thats just how it works you played extremely well if that helps. i gotten use to taking badbeats and i believe it made me a better player, in tournaments, cuz a chip and a chair all you need to come back . |
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| re: Please help me control my bad beat!!!! poker "I hit my set while my opponent hit his TPTK(Top Pair, Top Kicker). I checked from small blind." I think you might be playing too loose and then giving them the image of a bluff. If you have a set you need to bet at least 2/3 of the pot and get those kinds of draws off the hand before they put money in. They are more likely to fold 3 to a flush if they have nothing invested in that flop. |
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| When i'm tilting, i write a quick note. Rational ape -_- KK is my guilty hand in cash game if i'm getting run over, or losing. I can fold it when i'm winning. I'd lost 2 BI and a LAG was stealing alot from the blinds, so i started 3betting him light. Semi decent hands with post flop value 98s, Ax etc well anyways he was getting the better of me. HE wsa flat calling, i was whiffing the flops. Then i wake up with KK, hand befoer i'd folded to his 4bet. So i 3bet him with KK and the nit BB 4bets 'OH FFS'. But talked myself into shoving knowing he had AA - thinking that MAYBE HE WAS ADJUSTING TO MY 3BETTING. How you can talk urself into BS at times. I don't want to fold, he might have QQ. LOL adjusting to my 3bets - this was a guy who only played his hand strength.. Absolutely fish, fish, fishy and i'm so disappointed with that hand. Looking at HEM KK is very unprofitable for me in all in pots pre flop. I've won 4 and lost 6 where i've ran into AA. So much for Harrington saying never fold KK preflop...you do at mirco limits where the competent players only stack KK and AA. |
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I agree with Harrington - I just don't see how you can ever fold KK's preflop. I don't think competent micro players (and I don't think there are all that many of these - not even saying I'm one) only stack KK and AA - actually, I can't believe the hands I see micro players stacking with. It's aggravating, and memorable, when you get KK's all in against AA's, but it's -Ev to fold these preflop. |
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| I have another question. How long does it take to forget and move onto bad beat. It's been like 2 weeks or so now. But still, I can't get rid of this bad beat. It's the worst beat I've ever had in my life. My friend told me to go to casino with him but I refused because I'm still angry at bad beats back to back and going to that casino where I received bad beat makes me want to burn the casino down. Sorry for freaking everyone out again but I can't tolerate this. I don't remember giving bad beats horribly like the way other people gave it to me. I don't recall myself beating someone's set with TPTK. I don't recall hitting my set on the river to beat someone when odds were heavily in my opponent's favor during post-flop. |
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| 2 weeks seems excessive... Here are a few suggestions - first, if you've been playing much, I seriously doubt you haven't given a serious bad beat to someone else. I've been on the receiving and giving ends of this hand several times over. I remember being the bad beat recipient much more vividly than being the giver, but when I remember that I've been the giver, it tones down the frustration of being the receiver. Second, go through this thread. A lot of people are putting this into the right context - you got your money in good and got tremendously unlucky - you did exactly the right thing, but your hand was not a lock. Third, take a little more time off, like another month, before going to the casino again. Seriously, if you're still tilting, you'll play badly. Fourth, if you can't get past this, give up playing poker. Bad beats are a basic part of the game, and are actually necessary to making poker profitable. Not trying to be a jerk by saying this, but if bad beats set you off too much, you won't enjoy the game. |
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Well there's 2 ways to look at it.Hit it hard up front or check raise as you did and try to get it all. Me personally, I would rather win a small pot with that kind of board and get the draws to fold. If you check raise chalk it up to giving a guy a look at too many cards. |
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| re: Please help me control my bad beat!!!! poker I would extremely suggest taking a few days off if not a week from poker. I find taking the day off before a big tournament helps clear my brain from any bad beats and keeps my brain fresh |
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| getting bad beats can really put some people into that special place where they dont give a shit no more and start gambling out of control. Shoving any cards or calling raises with stupid cards. I tend to get pissed off about bad beats also, but lately the thing that seems to work for me is to tell myself... Poker is a game of luck and skill. This hand was just unlucky. I CANT CONTROL LUCK so why should i be stressing it. IN THE LONG RUN i`m GOING TO MAKE MONEY as long as my ACTIONS WERE CORRECT. Remember just because you got a bad beat does not mean you played your hand correctly. A lot of times when we get bad beats we make mistakes. We either dont raise when we should or we dont reraise when we should. Or sometimes we check trying to trap when we shouldnt. Evaluate each BAD BEAT to make sure it was not the fault of your play but only BAD LUCK... BAD LUCK comes and GOES |
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I'm planning to go to different casino for a while and try out my poker there. Going back to that same casino that gave me bad beats back to back makes me want to burn that place down. I've given myself enough break already. |
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But when I play online, it's much harder because people know what they're doing, everyone knows math, everyone uses special program, keep track, calculate odds, play more hands, learn very quickly. But in casino, you see lot of donks who play wrecklessly and you have huge advantage against low stake tables if you're online player because you played more hands than their lives and you know more situations and environment of texture of board than them. I grinded to 14k so far, had it to 20k. But online, I just have 50 bucks on it and only got that from freerolls(I lost 100 bucks before because I had poor bankroll management and played on .5/1 or 1/2 when I only had 60 bucks), and I have trouble grinding that up. I try to use online to have fun, not trying to be serious with it or become a millionaire using online poker or make living off it. I use online to kill time when I'm home and not in casino but want to play poker. I use online to build my skills mentally. |
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Below is not directed at you at all, I know you're not advocating what I'm criticizing below. For those who are learning to play, especially if you're trying to build a bankroll - be very careful following through with any plan you may have after reading this post to go fleece the local casino crowd by playing random hands. You're better off getting a solid game together and THEN going to the casino to fleece the tourist crowd. It's a hell of a lot easier and cheaper to do that at microstakes on line and in consuming educational materials (participate in forums, read books, watch videos, etc.) than getting an education at a casino, if there are competent players at the table - and, chances are, there'll be at least one. |
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