ljove
Rock Star
Silver Level
Hey Raven.I saw in your profile that you like hunting.Are you realy go hunting.It is little strange for me that women go hunting.Have you ever shoot something and what?Tell me please but don't cook one of those hunting stories.
Egon Towst
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
You are very welcome. Please try not to make me more conceited than I am already.
If you are talking about a single tournament, you are correct. Nobody can predict with any certainty that they will reach the FT in a specific tournament. However, MTT players are playing for the long term, not for single tournies.
So far in 2009, over a sample of several hundreds of MTTs entered, I have cashed in 16% of them, and reached the FT in 7%. If you were to ask other successful players, you might be surprised at how closely their figures resemble mine, because that is about "par" for a strong online MTT player.
In other words, luck determines whether one wins on any particular day but, over a large enough sample, a good player wins just as sure as the sun comes up in the morning. Not much luck there.
StormRaven
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Yes I really go hunting and yes, I'm good at it
I've shot several does, a few bucks, squirrels, rabbits, raccoons, possum, quail, phesant, coyote and some other pesty animals.I don't want to hi-jack this terrific thread so I'll give a short story that will make you believe (but I don't really care if you do or not, no offense, lol) that I am a successful female hunter:
First deer I ever shot was a 6 pt buck, he dropped 65 yards from where I hit him, wasn't quite dead when I walked up on him and he looked at me and gave a death cry. I balled like a baby, non stop tears for 5 minutes!
(Then I gutted him) True Story!
Worak
Legend
Bronze Level
It's over half a year that I read the OP for the first time - I didn't know how to subscribe to a thread back then but still remembered some of it.
Now as I read it again I find out that I'm doing lots of the things you suggested.
Either I have some kind of photographic memory (strongly doubt that) or having played some (quite a few would be exaggerating) MTTs brought me to similar solutions.
I can't compare myself to you - or many other mid/high stakes players here - but your article was one of many here at CC that improved my game a lot.
At the micro stakes I'm still playing (no deposit) I have improved considerably turning a starting BR of 0.53$ into 300$+.
I'm always working on my game though my work keeps me from playing as much as I'd like to.
Just wanted to thank you for sharing and hope I can give my splinters of knowledge to the community sometime - just as you did.
BTW: OPR shows that I've got a crazy FT MTT ROI atm (94%) , ITM 20% - probably just because the stakes are so low - but sounds nice imo.
Now as I read it again I find out that I'm doing lots of the things you suggested.
Either I have some kind of photographic memory (strongly doubt that) or having played some (quite a few would be exaggerating) MTTs brought me to similar solutions.
I can't compare myself to you - or many other mid/high stakes players here - but your article was one of many here at CC that improved my game a lot.
At the micro stakes I'm still playing (no deposit) I have improved considerably turning a starting BR of 0.53$ into 300$+.
I'm always working on my game though my work keeps me from playing as much as I'd like to.
Just wanted to thank you for sharing and hope I can give my splinters of knowledge to the community sometime - just as you did.
BTW: OPR shows that I've got a crazy FT MTT ROI atm (94%) , ITM 20% - probably just because the stakes are so low - but sounds nice imo.
StormRaven
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Egon - I have some observations on my recent play in regards to your article I would like your opinion on.
After reading this article you wrote, it really did inspire me btw, I found myself becoming much more focused on my game in the last couple of days. I'm pleased to report that I've come out of a downswing and have placed in the money more often in the last couple of days - Oct. 6th. thru Oct. 8th (17 sng's & mtt's - itm 10x) than I have in the last 30 days.
While playing the mtt's, I decided to apply some of your concepts each time I was moved to a new table. I sat for a short bit not playing any hands, just "breathing in" all the information. Then using that information to make a few steals "stack building". After a larger stack is built, I change gears again and concentrate on isolating with stronger hands "Aces & 9's". Then after showing down some strong hands, changing gears again to stack building & using all the info I've gathered plus the info I've given to my opps to get into the money (can't really think of how to incorporate "punching" on a full table so haven't even tried). Of course my goal isn't getting into the money, but taking down 1st place.
I believe over the last few days this method has helped me get into the money during my tourney play more often than I have been doing lately. I believe it has been especially helpful each time I've been moved to a new table. I haven't gotten especially deep yet, within 100-200 spots in mtt's with 4k plus opps, but it's only been a couple days.
I realize your article is targeted to final tables, however, do you think incorporating these techniques at new tables is productive/profitable?
After reading this article you wrote, it really did inspire me btw, I found myself becoming much more focused on my game in the last couple of days. I'm pleased to report that I've come out of a downswing and have placed in the money more often in the last couple of days - Oct. 6th. thru Oct. 8th (17 sng's & mtt's - itm 10x) than I have in the last 30 days.
While playing the mtt's, I decided to apply some of your concepts each time I was moved to a new table. I sat for a short bit not playing any hands, just "breathing in" all the information. Then using that information to make a few steals "stack building". After a larger stack is built, I change gears again and concentrate on isolating with stronger hands "Aces & 9's". Then after showing down some strong hands, changing gears again to stack building & using all the info I've gathered plus the info I've given to my opps to get into the money (can't really think of how to incorporate "punching" on a full table so haven't even tried). Of course my goal isn't getting into the money, but taking down 1st place.
I believe over the last few days this method has helped me get into the money during my tourney play more often than I have been doing lately. I believe it has been especially helpful each time I've been moved to a new table. I haven't gotten especially deep yet, within 100-200 spots in mtt's with 4k plus opps, but it's only been a couple days.
I realize your article is targeted to final tables, however, do you think incorporating these techniques at new tables is productive/profitable?
Egon Towst
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
I certainly think that "breathing in" is good policy whenever you are moved to a new table, and this is a concept I use at all stages of a tournament.
Unless you first take time to study your opponents and establish your own table image, you can do nothing but play your cards as dealt and hope to get lucky - hardly a reliable route to success. Additionally, you can only guess at the meaning of an opponent`s move, unless you have seen something of his style of play.
That aside, in the early and middle stages of a tourney, effective stack size is mightily important. (In fact, AG said that up above, didn`t he ?) At the final table, all players are apt to be more or less short-stacked, which allows the relatively simple road-map which I laid out above to be effective. Where stack sizes are greater, there will be much more post-flop play and therefore additional factors to consider which are outside the scope of this thread.
Well done on your recent success, btw.
Dorkus Malorkus
HELLO INTERNET
Silver Level
well alrighty then!