The New UIGEA Regulations and what You can do to Fight Them

[Snowmobiler]

It is extremely dissapointing that we are suppose to be "land of the free" and a game that our fore fathers played has come under so many attacks.I hope the people that have nothing better to do than to try to take my freedoms find something better to do with themselves

 

[DREW0]

In fact this law was passed, signed and put into effect by the Bush administration long before the new president took office. And although I don't agree with everything the new administration has in mind, at least this is not something that can be blamed on them.

 

[DogzBestFrnd]

Went to all the links in the original post after reading this thread. I actually got a reply from my represenative in congress. This is a reply to the form letter on the PPA site.

Dear such n such:
Thank you for contacting me to express your support for Internet gambling. I appreciate hearing from you.
As you may know, P.L. 109-347, the Security and Accountability for Every Port Act, contains a provision that prohibits gambling companies from accepting credit cards or bank transfers as payments for gambling transactions that involve the Internet. In response to this law, several measures were introduced in the 110th Congress that would allow Internet gambling.
Specific to your concerns, in the 110th Congress, Rep. Frank introduced H.R. 6870, the Payments System Protection Act of 2008, which would have suspended the federal rulemaking process regarding payments to offshore gambling sites. Specifically, the measure would have required federal regulators to define the phrase "unlawful Internet gambling," which is contained within certain proposed regulations that would prohibit such payments. On September 16, 2008, the House Committee on Financial Services approved H.R. 6870 by a vote of 30 to 19.
Additionally, Rep. Frank introduced H.R. 2046, the Internet Gambling Regulation and Enforcement Act of 2007. This measure would have amended P.L. 109-347 to allow online gambling for properly licensed operators. Specifically, the measure would have established a federal regulatory and enforcement framework to monitor Internet gambling operators and allow them to accept online bets and wagers from individuals in the United States. The measure also would have established regulations to ensure individuals placing online wagers are over 18 years old and to protect against fraud, money laundering, and compulsive gambling. H.R. 2046 was referred to the House Committees on Financial Services and Energy and Commerce and had 48 cosponsors.
However, neither of these measures received consideration by the full House prior to the adjournment of the 110th Congress. Should similar legislation be introduced in the 111th Congress, be assured that I will monitor it with your views in mind.

Thank you again for contacting me. Do not hesitate to let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.
Sincerely,
Peter J. Visclosky
Member of Congress

Ofcoures he didnt actually address it to such n such, and it is probably an automated reply letter to this subject. But if they took the time to make a form letter, it means they are replying to alot of letters/e-mails ect. So we are getting the message to them. If you havent done so already, go there and send a letter to your congressman.

 

[DINGO8MYBABY]

I'm so glad the feds were worried about this instead of the other 99.9999999% of the economy. When governments do crap like this it isn't even really government; it's government theater.

 

[channing73ny]

ouch

wow i ty for all the info i hope we can get all our members too veto this.i didnt realize thing were getting this bas but ill do my part in writing too obama administration i hope every 1 else here does too this will be a tragedy if we let them take away our rights.we have all got too lettem ere from us before its too late

 

[SystEmsuX]

Please help stop this thing so I don't have to move to canada.

Canadians, please make sure your country doesn't imitate us.

 

[hothandsmgee]

This really sucks. Ive been trying my card and it hasn't worked so I bought one of those gift cards and that didn't work either. This really is a disgusting thing to do to the huge amount of people who play poker online.

 

[SlipperyPete]

This is outrageous, Just found out about it and I am going to be firing off a ton of emails. I wish I lived in canada. In fact, Ill probably move there if this doesn't get overturned/severely revised. Insane.

Everyone should do work, and get everyone they know to send emails expressing their disapproval. It's the only way we can fight back.

 

[NoWuckingFurries]

Am I the only one who sees the irony of a country that allows citizens to carry guns, yet won't let them gamble or play poker?

 

[reaper60]

No you're not the only one nowucking this country also lets one drink themselves to death or someone else's death but won't legalize mj or online gambling. BTW I used a credit card here in the U.S. the other day to make a deposit on ftp. pokerstars would not accept it.

 

[TheDude]

Having experience on "both sides of the felt", I should probably play devil's advocate for the land based U.S. casino industry in a small way, at least in regards to their eventual decision to lobby against online gaming freedom.

I say eventual decision, because I know for a fact that a large group of the more forward looking Nevada casino owners became very personally invested in lobbying both the Nevada Gaming Commission and the Federal Government to set up a legal framework that would allow them to offer online services in the future. (circa 1994 maybe earlier)

Unfortunately, after several years, the only action taken by the NGC on the issue was to "clarify" certain laws in a way that precluded anyone who had gone through the long, expensive, and incredibly difficult process of getting a Nevada gaming license, from any involvement in "interstate gaming", under penalty of revocation of their Nevada gaming license.

The owners and some of the casino unions fought hard for several years, and spent huge amounts of money lobbying for the right to offer online gaming services, and continue setting the standard for their industry. But to no avail.

The reward they received for looking forward and attempting to plan for the future of their industry, was to be effectively be excluded from it.

Were I to find myself in their position, I would almost certainly do everything within my power to protect my business interests.

The U.S. casino industry has been forced into stagnation at gunpoint, by a bloated regulatory agency who's true mandate wasn't actually intended to act as a regulatory agency protecting the public's' interest. It was actually written to advance the federal governments interest in transitioning the larger criminal organizations which had developed during prohibition into tax paying corporations, with as much government involvement and oversight as possible.

Those old mob bosses are long dead, casinos are businesses no different from any other, and should be allowed to succeed as a business.

We should all be writing to the Nevada Gaming Commission and flooding the mailboxes of every elected official in the state of Nevada daily requesting that they coordinate with the Gaming Commission to bring the gaming laws and the NGC into the 21st century, Nevada survives on gaming revenue, and the people of Nevada need to remind their public servants of that fact before Vegas and gambling no longer go together.

The U.S. casino owners have been foaming at the mouth and jumping through hoops for years hoping to be allowed entry to the future of their industry. It won't take them long to sweep most of these Euro sites aside if they ever get the opportunity.

 

[grilldoggy]

Kentucky owns Cardschat...believe it, or not.

https://www.cardschat.com/home.php
Hats off, I'll assume this is an April Fool's Day joke! Very funny, unless it's somehow true?

 

[FEARFACTOR]

https://www.cardschat.com/home.php
Hats off, I'll assume this is an April Fool's Day joke! Very funny, unless it's somehow true?

I got the same message when I tried to go to Cardschat yesterday! When I clicked on "read more", it brought me to the forum. Is this an April fool's joke? I wouldn't doubt it's true, lol.

 

[lansd]

I really think it is more about control of the Internet than gambling.

 

[KDS63]

Timely information and excellent follow-up with what to do and how to do it! This whole internet gaming fiasco is just one more way that Bush diminished the US in the eyes of the world.

 

[reaper60]

No

I really think it is more about control of the Internet than gambling.

No I believe it is about control of the american citizen period. The government has been dictating to us for years what is good or bad for us, basically listening to the fundamentalists.

 

[ChiRoy]

Writing Obama is a waste of time. He doesn't like it when people make money. The only way he will allow it is if he can tax the winings at 90%

 

[ChiRoy]

Obama hates us making money

Writing Obama is a waste of time. He doesn't like it when people make money. The only way he will allow it is if he can tax the winings at 90%

 

[beatlebug]

Hi All

You would think that with the economy in a mess as it is, this would be an avenue that they could take to create some income. At least that way, it would be beneficial to the government instead of making hard working, fun loving people out to be criminals.

Beatlebug

 

[Jarod1231]

the u.s. government is absolutely retarded in the fact that if they just made it legal and started taxing it they would be one step closer to being out of debt

 

[mange]

Just sent a message to Obama and Senate

I just cranked of two e-mails. One to POTUS and one to the Senate in support of On line Poker.

Go the Poker Player's Alliance site and they will forward the messages.

I see that On Line Poker made the Evening News today. On Shepard Smith, Fox news.

So, we are getting some action.

 

[kmixer]

Barney Frank has new legislation that will hopefully put Poker one step closer to being a legal sport in America again.

The government should help track down criminals that are fighting pitbulls instead of punishing adults and banks for playing poker online and infringing on our rights to do what we want with our hard earned money.

Please write to your representatives in congress and tell them you have a right under that you have a right to play poker and that you will highly consider voting against them when their term is up if they don't support that right by voting yes to any legislation that makes online poker legal again.

 

[mange]

I already did.

I already did. Sent the letter through PPA.

My US Senator from Virginia sent me a letter saying they recieved my input though a third Party. ie PPA.

So I sent him another one dirrectly from me.

There are some big guns on our side. ( The On line group) But, the brick and mortar site have powerful lobby influence and lots of money to spread around to the politician.

They the B&M sites dont want everyone sitting at home playing poker. haha. Look at all the empty buildings there would be.

mange

 

[DaBigBoss]

This crap keeps getting deeper and deeper, hopefully this situation will be overturned and im not forced only to play brick and mortar( which i also love).

 

[thizzboyzz]

taxing the sites

Actually a government run site was a proposal during the time this legislation was going through, it was voted on and lost big time. I think that this, along with many other things, the government has such a problem with simply because they cant figure out how to make or generate income and so they dont want something like an online site to make millions. This might not make sense but realistically in a failing economy, this site is taking A TON of money every hour. Yes people may win, but it is still taking money out of the economy. Minus the fact that there are so many players out of USA.

Thizz