What's the right play in this situation...

4 limpers button ( donk who always shoves ) shove 200 pot is 440 I have q8suited in SB and getting 2/1. I have 700 chips and playing ftw. Table is FULL of donks who recklessly call all ins with a donkified range . Do I call or go all in over the top or fold? Btw I folded...

Good fold according to your own read of the table and players.

Q8 is barely a top 50% hand. Being suited is nice but doesn't really add much value. Even if he is shoving A2C's your no no better than a coin flip. Still, with 2:1 odds I could make a good case for calling heads up. You could try isolating but with 2 limpers there's just not a good enough chance of pulling it off. I think folding is the best play.

fold...wait till you get a top ten hand they will pay you off haha

Q8 is a pretty weak hand with so many callers, I would probably fold.

Your fold was absolutely right in my opinion. Wait for a better hand.

easy fold

izaak

is this a tournament or cash game? It seems like a tournament from the way you described it, I think in a cash game it would be a snap fold even if you think his range is that wide.

In a tournament, you should consider how many big blinds you have left, and if you are short, I think its a reshove. Considering you may be ahead of a lot of his range and the fact that you are getting low on chips, that points me towards a reshove.

This is a fold for me. Easy decision. Wait for a better hand and try and double up in a one to one situation.

fold unless u feel like donking around

Easy fold for me. By all means if your low on chips shove with it in the hope of stealing the blinds, but calling with it and with players still to act is throwing your chips away

Sounds like it's a tournament.

Given your analysis of the hand, I'd say a fold is good. I'm not sure what the blinds are but I just can't see cold calling being good. If blinds are low, you're calling off way to many BBs with a not-so-good hand. And if blinds are high, you're committing way too much of your stack to just call. Shoving all-in doesn't seem like it's a good idea against 4 players who are calling all-in bets. Just because you might be ahead of their 'donkafied' range doesn't justify a shove. Against 1-2 players in the pot, I might consider a shove.

Just to throw this in: just because you're getting 2:1 pot odds to call a shove shouldn't be a huge determining factor on if you call or fold. Not saying that pot odds aren't important but I tend to make it one of the last things I really evaluate on whether I call, shove, or fold.

I think it's pretty level 1 thinking when you hear players say things like "Well, I had to call the all in with 710suited because I was getting just under 2:1 odds". Especially when you know they disregard all other variables in the the hand. LOLtelevisedpoker.

Would be nice to know structure/stack sizes left/etc.

Assuming we're not worried about ICM I like shoving here with this hand and probably some worse ones. I can't figure out the blinds but it sounds like it's 25-50 or 30-60 so you're getting almost 3-1 and we are in great shape against his range. Folding would actually be a fairly large mistake imo.

Relative hand strength is important to keep in mind.

I thought I should add some math here:
Not a ton of info in the OP but let's say donk is shoving 55% of hands. We're 47%-48% against that range.

If 55% seems too loose for "donk who always shoves," let's trim it back to something more reasonable, 45%. That would be roughly any pair, any ace, any suited king, K7o+, Q4s+, Q8o+, J8o+, J6s+, and some other connectors and suited crap.

We're 45% against this range with a ton of dead money in the pot. We're not in great chip shape and we're properly playing FTW, as OP stated.

Compare this situation to a nit shoving UTG and we have AKs on the CO. This is roughly the exact same situation equity wise, but with worse pot odds and a much greater likelihood of someone waking up behind us with a hand that has us crushed, and I'm sure most/all of us would be happy shipping it in there.

So much is missing from this... such as # of players left? how close to cashing are you? stack sizes of the limpers? will blinds be increasing soon? what's your image? It's really hard to give you good advice without some of this info.

The most important information you gave was how loose your opponents are calling. Folding is absolutely he right play in this situation because of it. Not because you can't make the right play by calling here and have a reasonable pot odds situation, but you have the button on the next hand. Not to sound too much like Phil Hellmuth, but you can wait a couple more hands and get the stone cold nuts... which wouldn't be too hard to do against opponents playing so loose. You could easily find yourself in a much better situation than a coinflip or small dog.

Test: Play 10 tournaments and keep track of how many times you get better than 2.5-1 pot odds on a flip.

I mean, yeah, if you wait another 10 rounds you'll probably get KK or AA once.

Don't give me, ZOMG wait for a better hand, show a realistic range for a "donk who always shoves" where we should fold. We have 40%-48% when we only need ~35% to play, and if we shove and lose to the donk we aren't even knocked out. This is a pretty huge edge to pass on.

We don't know the blinds at this point in the game. I'm guessing its around 25-50 with the pot size you gave and 4 limpers. I say fold is a good move here given assumed blinds + 4 limpers, its likely that you hit any 1 of your cards Q or 8 and you'll be dominated.

Whats the blind structure? how many players left in the tourney? If everyone is as loose and donks as much as you say, it is likely the BB will call as well so your playing Q8s against 5 other players. Against so many players, I dont want to commit so many chips with a pair of queens or even two pair assuming we hit the flop well. We could get a flush but that would only be third highest and our hand is not well made to shoot for a straight. Given five players, it is highly likely one of those donks has an ace which we are 40:60 underdog to. Q8s is not a good hand to really play with early/middle stage. I say fold.

Test: Actually read OPs. Then you'd see that you're highly likely not going to be heads up against a shoving donk... you'll be against a bunch of calling donks too. If I know it's going to be heads up, I'm almost always going to call... but that's not this situation. If they're calling as loose as OP says, you don't need AA or KK to get your money in good and get called in a really good situation.

Severe lack of information OP.