| This is a discussion on Biggest mistakes in MTTs within the online poker forums, in the Tournament Poker section; What in your opinion are the biggest mistakes made in MTTs at varying levels? Whether it be playing too tight/loose in early/middle/late stages, or Cbetting ... |
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| Biggest mistakes in MTTs What in your opinion are the biggest mistakes made in MTTs at varying levels? Whether it be playing too tight/loose in early/middle/late stages, or Cbetting to high, not changing "pace" throughout etc etc. Would be interesting to see what people think? |
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| It's kind of standard to expect a c-bet by the pre-flop aggressor at 90% of pots. I think this is one of the biggest mistakes, when you're already quite short in general, you can't afford to be making c-bets then folding your hands, an example would be 20 or so blinds, someone opens up quite loose, c-bets regardless, gets called then end up check/folding causing them to lose 20-30% of your stack. People will often still be raising it up when they should be shoving but scared to busting so raise minimum for example, they are easy to spot and usually you can buy the pots from them (if it's bubble time) People have an idea that a big stack is the way forward in the early stages so that's why you often see people with huge stacks, but fail to realize this is actually irrelevant to a degree. Of course having a big stack is nothing to turn your nose up to but I think again people will often get it in bad, risk their tournament life on something that will have a "little" edge on field. Playing tight is right in the early stages and your edge will be much more valuable as opposed to the donkeys trying to achieve that huge stack if you loosen up and become aggressive when it really matters. Again, a lot tighten up on the bubble and I used to be one of those, but I'm not so much bothered about cashing as it's meaningless and you just about get your buy-in + half again at best most times. I'd sooner push on those who are scared and build up a huge stack prior to the bubble bursting and then it's time after the bubble to make well timed shoves hoping to double up a couple of times to be able to get a greater stack. |
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| Difficult to say (imo).. what are more common mistakes?.... not adjusting to different stack sizes (our own & the others on the table). Some others > - raising stuff like AQo, AJ & then flatting 3bets out of position.(in early levels in low buyin mtt) - High blind limping |
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| -Playing too lose in the early stages -Playing too tight near the bubble...this is when you should be stealing the most because for one the blinds and ates are usually pretty high so it really can help your chip stack and two the majority of people will tighten up on the bubble to make sure they cash...like ramdeebam said, does it really matter if you win your bi back? -Like Poker Orifice said, don't limp when the blinds are high...if your going to play a hand during them levels your usually always better off raising. Last edited by thebigdawg : 1st June 2011 at 8:02 PM. |
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| re: Biggest mistakes in MTTs poker I think my biggest mistake in MTTs is playing at all at the first two levels. At my BI level, many people will call any bet with anything and any chips put into the pot can be expected to finish as an all-in if you want to see the showdown! Steve |
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| Not shoving wide enough in late position Peeling then folding off short stacks Playing suited connectors and speculative hands when you've got a shallow stack, whether it's HU or 2 or 3 bet. Saw someone earlier cold call a cold 3bet jam after someone raised some limpers with 76s, just lol Peeling to defend blinds with too wide a range Seeing flops with no plan Raising pre without thinking about what you're doing if you get 3bet Taking stupid lines post flop because they haven't thought about their opponents range - e.g. trying to bet for value when you should be check calling, bluffing in stupid spots when your opponent is always ridic strong Not picking spots and adjusting probably; shove ATC over tight players but not loose players, 3betting light against loose players is fine but not having a plan when you get 4bet isn't good and they are likely way tighter UTG than they are in the CO |
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| Losing patience and deciding to gamble on a hand or hope for a draw Not paying attention to your own table image (a lot of what good players are going to do against you is predicated on what they think of you and what they think of you is largely based on what you have been doing). Not adapting to the different levels and stages of the tournament (until it's too late) Too conservative in late stages (not having the balls to shove a stack of 12BB) |
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And no paying attention to other player table image, because you're doing something else, like surfing or watching TV |
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| I think as stks get shorter people flat call pre-flop not really getting the proper implied odds. |
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| One of the mistakes I used to make a lot was to "roar through the gate" during the earliest stages of the tournament, and then complain when my 6xBB raise from EP got four callers. It is usually better to play a tighter range at the beginning and then pursue stack-building once the table has tightened up. |
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| I'd say the biggest mistake people can make in MTTs is misplaying their stack size near or on the final table. By that I mean mid stacks getting gun shy and letting themselves bleed out or big stacks taking the aggression a bit too far and finding themselves go from a top 3 stack to out of the tournament in 8th place. When you've reached the final table, mistakes are amplified due to the money at stake. |
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| The biggest thing I see from people.....is that when people are short stacked they wait and wait for premium hands to shove with and by the time they get a good hand they can barely cover the blinds and they get 5 callers.... Harrington on Hold Em calls it first in vigorish....when your stack is starting to get short and can still do damage to people if they call and lose and no one else has yet entered the pot if you get a hand like kj suited or id even gambled with hands like 78suited shove and hope you get lucky if someone calls or you will still the blinds do that enough and when you do get a premium hand someone will call just to look you up and boom aces |
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| re: Biggest mistakes in MTTs poker -Being too tight and not calling with pockets when you think they both haev aces and are still afraid of their kicker being hit. Chances are they have a weaker kicker than your pockets. -Not challenging the chip leader at every chance you get. |
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| Ive been an MTT reg for a while. There are lots of mistakes I still see players make online. I would say the BIGGEST one, is limping (just calling) preflop when it is incorrect to limp. Let me give you an example. Lets say the blinds are 1,000/2,000 and you have a stack of 25,000. It is very late in the tournament. You pick up KJ offsuit in early position. So many players will not be comfortable enough to shove here. I think that the optimal play here is either to shove or fold, NEVER limp when you only have 12 BB's. I rarely ever limp when i have less than 20 BB's. Im either in shove or fold mode. In the situation i mentioned above, deciding whether to shove or fold depends on the stack sizes of the rest of the players in the field. I would say that if its a turbo tournament where everyone is short, then you can afford to fold and look for a spot where you are in late position to shove your chips in (Shove spot). But if its a regular mtt and you are considered a short stack, then you have to ship in your chips there with KJ. Moral of the story...never limp with less than 20 BB's. It is incorrect to do so. |
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I would say that one of the biggest mistakes I personally made was that when I started playing live. I was playing it just the same as if I was online. When I started the transition I left so many chips on the table by not considering things like my image or tells enough. |
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