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harman187
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Fwiw, I've made about $2k/month in 2009, playing recreationally, i.e. a little less than 50 hours per month, a mix of 100nl and 200nl, averaging about 500 hands/hour, so about 300k hands over the year. If you play full time, it's obviously possible to live off poker at 100nl, provided you're good enough to beat it...
5% is lol when you play seriously. 20 buy-ins downswings can happen several times per year. I personally don't play without at least 60 buy-ins for the stake, but i'd want at least 100 if this was actually my job and not a hobby.
Obviously applies for each table, not for all of them together. The goal is to protect against the variance of the cards, and cards dealt at different tables are independent variables, whether you play them simultaneously or at different times.
Thats pretty good going.
What poker sites do you play at out of interest?
if u play 600,000 hands a month, u can make a living at 10nl
ive heard you need realistically a 70 k bankroll to consider making a living or turning pro in poker.
ive heard you need realistically a 70 k bankroll to consider making a living or turning pro in poker.
not sure how 18k a year is considered making a living. i guess you don't have bills to pay?
You can't be an online poker pro without multitabling.
And the threshold between casual play and tables where most of the regs are pros is 200nl. You can make a very decent living at that level if you're good.
There are people who play high stakes, one table at a time who make a living of it. If you're referring to playing 2nl, then yeah I'd agree you couldn't.
How would you get to the high stakes without multitabling?
Well there are many of these sorts of players, ither very wealthy from whatever source prior to playing. Could be poker earned, I dunno.
There are some high stake players who can afford to just deposit 10k for example and start playing at those stakes I'd imagine. There are plenty on fulltilt who jump in at the highest stakes and basically come from no where. No history of any low stake grind and most of the time will just be playing one or two tables turning over some impressive profits. I'd imagine a lot are live high stake players.
Do you think many players start at the high stakes?
Can you name a few?
10K isnt anywhere enough money to be BRd for the high stakes.
I know a college student that is funding his education by playing live 1/2 nlhe. he is very aggresive in style and spends all his free time at the table.
For me personally, I retired to play for a living in 2005. I can only keep up with my household expences by playing 5/10 nlhe, 15/30 lo, this is live cash game play. I go to the casino and play as long as it takes to cover 3 month worth of bills and I always stay 3 month ahead. So when I get down to 3 month worth of cash available for monthly expenses, it's off to the casino, and play until I have a total of 6 months income. my last trip took a week to make my income and cover my expenses. It's a very hard way to make an easy living.
How would you get to the high stakes without multitabling?
That makes no sense. Why would you only go once in a blue moon to get months worth of expenses and just stop playing till your money runs out? Why not continue playing full-time and earning (by the sounds of it) several hundreds of thousands if you played full time? This makes more sense and surely be a nice living if you actually can do it..
I'd of thought you would of had to keep on top of your game aswell and getting better and better. How on earth do you not play for months on end and still manage to go back to the casino and earn 3 months worth of expenses? I smell something...
I'm not being funny when I say this and hats of to you if you actually do, do that but for someone to start playing for a living to just play maybe 4 weeks in a year and those limits seems a bit ridiculous. Anyone who can beat such limits would be playing most weeks in my opinion.
ps: Why not go online and play some? Or just play for one year everyday, you could make even more and be a millionaire within a year, get interest on your millions in the bank which would cover all your expenses and you would never have to do it again!
You could then warrant just playing 4 times a year for "fun" and an extra bit of cash to your big stack of millions.