Bank Roll Management

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  #1
23rd March 2008, 3:21 PM
KingCurtis
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem ldo
Bank Roll Management

Hello, I wanted to make finding and learning about Bank Roll Management a little easier for people, so i decided to summarize some things. Mainly I wanted to make the title so when others are searching through the search tool this will come up( because I doubt this will be a sticky).

Most of the information in this post is from "The Ferguson Chalenge" and other members of CC. The information from CC members will be quoted and this will be done because sorting throught the 12+ page of the "lets build a bankroll....whos with me" thread can be stressful to find the info that you may want.

Please post anymore Information that you would seem fits here, please no stats of your BR for that is mainly what the thread of "lets build a bank roll...who's with me" is filled with.

First Ferguson's Input:

For all Cash games and Sit and Go's only use 5% of your Bank roll to buyin or sit down with. For Example if you Deposit 50$ only buy in for $2.50.

For MTT's(Multi Table Tournaments) only use 2% of your Bank roll. Once again if you have deposited 50$ only buy in for $1.
tourneys 2 %

For at any time during a No-limit or Pot-limit game if your Chip count at that seat exceeds more than 10% of your total Bank Roll, stand up and either stop or move to another table with the correct percentile buy-in.

CC members Input:

BR % By Member "BoltNeck"

To work ot your percentages, divide your current bankroll by your starting bakroll, then multiply the result by 100.

(current bankoll / starting banroll) * 100

Example

Starting bankroll = $100
Bankroll at the end of day one $107

107 divided by 100 = 1.07
1.07 multiplied by 100 = 107%

PigPen

It's your money, use it how you want to. You can read all the bankroll management information and pick the ranges where you are comfortable. Deside where you are going to move up and down so that there is at least a little overlap. For example, say you are going to move up when your buy-in is 5%, e.g., to $4 buy-in when you reach $80. Set for yourself where you are going to move down, say at $70 or at $60. This would work for all levels.
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  #2
23rd March 2008, 3:38 PM
Inscore77
 
Good post KC


Please everybody, follow some sort of BRM plan. I have gone broke more than once by not following some sort of guidelines. It doesnt have to be the exact same as what was stated above, but those are really good examples. From here on out, I'm following the Ferguson plan
  #3
23rd March 2008, 3:55 PM
4Aces
 
Online Poker at: Jokerstars
Game: NLHE & PLO
I depends on how much your BR means to you. If it would be a disaster to lose it and you cant afford to redeposit any times soon, then you would need very strict BR managment.

This is the BR management I use.
LIMIT - 500 Big Bets.
NL/PL - 45 Buyins.
SnG - 65 Buyins.
MTT - 200 Buyins.

I see many people using the Ferguson rule, but its just too risky if you really don't want to go broke. If you only have 20 buyins for one level, don't be surprised if you lose half of your BR playing great.
  #4
23rd March 2008, 4:07 PM
KingCurtis
 
Poker at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem ldo
thanks 4aces07 i have had notes written down i think on my laptop but i couldnt find actually from you lol....but thanks a lot for the input!
  #5
23rd March 2008, 4:31 PM
premierplayer
 
Online Poker at: fulltilt
Game: NL Holdem
re: Bank Roll Management poker

Bankroll management is key. Sometimes you just lose and lose and lose when your running bad. I dunno if I am the unluckiest person in the world but I go on streaks where I take bad beats over and over. Really playing micro limits I think you need a higher than normal bankroll for the higher than normal variance. I deposited 250 last week and now I am down to 117. Just keep losing and losing. Now I have to make sure I am not doing anything but $5 buyins.
  #6
23rd March 2008, 4:40 PM
driller1965
 
Poker at: pokerstars
Game: hold-em
reply to bankroll advice

i would like to have the bankroll u talk about but the smaller limits are just races not poker untill 2-4 so i hate to play in the 50.-1.00 and 1-2 ring games but overall good article driller1965
  #7
24th March 2008, 9:03 PM
pokerace3454
 
Online Poker at: pokerstars
Game: NL holdem
i'm depositing $740.00 at full tilt and withdrawing form cake poker

i wanted to play smaller stakes at full tilt at heads up with bankroll of $740.00
i have enough to play at 5 dollar sit and go heads up you need 100 buy ins
for sit and and normal cash game heads up

LIMIT - 500 Big Bets.
NL/PL - 45 Buyins.
SnG - 65 Buyins.
MTT - 200 Buyins.
heads up cash games 100 buy ins
sit and gos heads up 100 buy ins

why because if you play heads up you play 90% of your hands and variance.
  #8
25th March 2008, 6:18 PM
aliengenius
 
Poker at: CC LB games
Game: ON !
I like 100x the buy-in and/or entry fee as a real simple and quick rule. 45 buy-ins for NL isn't nearly enough for me. Losing 10x your buyin in one day in ring isn't impossible, I have done it twice (but, I do still suck at ring). However, FP recently linked to this, which reminds us that more money = less pain.

See here and here for good BR articles.
  #9
18th April 2008, 7:12 AM
KingCurtis
 
Online Poker at: PokerStars
Game: Holdem ldo
i wanted to bump this so that more people could post some information for others!
  #10
18th April 2008, 8:27 AM
bustme
 
re: Bank Roll Management poker

My bankroll management system is simple:

When I move up in limit. I will have mimimum 20 buyins on the new limit. If I loose 8 buyins I drop down in limit......


Usually I can loose about 4 buyins no and than and no its just bad luck...

But if I loose 6 buyins I am in the danger sone. Most likely I am doing something wrong.

If I loose 8 buyins I am 100% certain that I have leaks. (And because of that I have to be punished and move down in stakes.)


An example.. You have 2000 dollar playing NL 100 cash game. You loose 8 buyins ( 800dollar)

Than you have 1200 dollar and have to move down to NL 50.. ( where you have 24 buyins and are OK rolled)


Bankroll is all about your variance. My bankroll system are based on my variance and may be a failure for others.....

Last edited by bustme : 18th April 2008 at 8:39 AM.
 



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