Auto muck

#1 25th June 2011, 10:52 AM

i dont like to show monsters at times to set a table image that i only play monster hands and sometimes crazy to show a weak hand to make my opponets mad
which i feel like next time get them to bet into me when i really have a monster..i was wondering if anyone else doing the same or you are always on auto-muck??

#2 25th June 2011, 12:44 PM

I rarely show (execpt sometimes in private games) because I figure that giving out info for free is -EV.

The good opponents will catch up on the betting pattern you played with that hand and note it and the bad opponents ... well they aren't important in this scenario hehe.

I turn off auto muck just to have the option in the rare case I want to show.

#3 25th June 2011, 12:48 PM

Auto-muck is always on. I never show my cards with the exception of showdown.

#4 25th June 2011, 1:57 PM

There's really no point in showing.

#5 25th June 2011, 2:57 PM

I always have auto-muck on. It's best to keep your opponent guessing.

When an opponent shows me a bluff, I usually just laugh and congratulate them on a well executed play. Never become tilted simply because somebody has shown you a bluff.

When people show their cards, it is almost always an attempt to manipulate your perception of them in order to set up future plays. I often regard the cards shown as a bit of a reverse tell.

#6 25th June 2011, 3:06 PM

I sometimes show when everybody folds around to me in the BB and I have a monster hand such as AA or KK, but I don't do it as a way of manipulating perception of me.

I wish that I knew how to set Pokerstars up to automatically muck, I have FT set to muck automatically.

#7 25th June 2011, 3:18 PM

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Originally Posted by F4STFORW4RD

I sometimes show when everybody folds around to me in the BB and I have a monster hand such as AA or KK, but I don't do it as a way of manipulating perception of me.

I wish that I knew how to set Pokerstars up to automatically muck, I have FT set to muck automatically.

Options top menu, auto-muck is around there on PS software.

#8 25th June 2011, 5:27 PM

I almost never show , why give out info? If you are being friendly or maybe trying to tilt a reactive player you are at the same time feeding info to the shark to your left. -EV in my opinion.

#9 25th June 2011, 8:46 PM

I never show. you must pay to see my cards, big or small bluffin or not ,lol

#10 25th June 2011, 8:54 PM

I like to show 1 card on occasion, because there isn't really much info coming from 1 card. Thats probably my favorite feature on carbon... I don't know why PS and FT never picked that up...

#11 25th June 2011, 10:03 PM

Auto-muck is always on. I never show my cards.

#12 25th June 2011, 10:08 PM

i never show dont wanna give away anything

#13 25th June 2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by midgetfactory

i never show dont wanna give away anything

guess I was hallucinating

#14 25th June 2011, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RVladimiro

Options top menu, auto-muck is around there on PS software.

Yes well I have Muck Losing Hand checked in the Options > Showing/Mucking Hands list, but it still offers me the chance every hand to show my cards, and insists on popping up to the front of my screen to ask me whether I want to show my cards or not, which is quite frustrating.

#15 26th June 2011, 9:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Aldito

There's really no point in showing.

but sometimes makes bingo player aggressive and to call you by small pair in hand

#16 26th June 2011, 11:47 AM

bro i am really in favor of auto muck i am aganist giving any information to my opponent there is certin spot where the other player is on shorter stack than me by far i can show him some time a bluff as he want be so dangerous and may be calling with the seconed best hand more often

#17 26th June 2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by physiotherapist

but sometimes makes bingo player aggressive and to call you by small pair in hand

You are still giving information to the rest of the table.

#18 26th June 2011, 5:15 PM

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Originally Posted by psy0nyd3

I like to show 1 card on occasion, because there isn't really much info coming from 1 card. Thats probably my favorite feature on carbon... I don't know why PS and FT never picked that up...

That's my favorite too in live games,
some places tho have rules to say you have to show both,
so then I rarely show anything, like online, where I rarely show, unless I think it can be of benefit to me.
Auto-mucking is better because it speeds things up and you don't have to wait for players to decide what they want to show.

I like showing one because it doesn't give much away, but really messes with people and gets them thinking, which is brain power taken away from decision making.

#19 26th June 2011, 5:29 PM

Auto-Muck FTW and I only show four of a kind.

#20 26th June 2011, 7:04 PM

[quote=Chemist;1760770]e.
Auto-mucking is better because it speeds things up and you don't have to wait for players to decide what they want to show.
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^^^^^^^+1

I hate when a player does not show but leaves the 10 seconds or whatever he has to decide to muck or not. These guys dont realize a lot I guess, but its such a pissoff to waste the time when some idiot has auto muck off and ignores the show/muck option............

And auto muck anyway............... show (and tell) is for elementary level

#21 26th June 2011, 8:43 PM

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Originally Posted by F4STFORW4RD

Yes well I have Muck Losing Hand checked in the Options > Showing/Mucking Hands list, but it still offers me the chance every hand to show my cards, and insists on popping up to the front of my screen to ask me whether I want to show my cards or not, which is quite frustrating.

Every hand? There are only certain circumstances in which you can show your hand!

You have checked 'Muck Losing Hands' which is one such situation
Have you checked 'Don't Show Winning Hand' which is the other.
Your hand will still be shown if it goes to showdown, but you will not be prompted to show if everyone folds to you (after you raise for example)

#22 26th June 2011, 9:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Samango

Every hand? There are only certain circumstances in which you can show your hand!

You have checked 'Muck Losing Hands' which is one such situation
Have you checked 'Don't Show Winning Hand' which is the other.
Your hand will still be shown if it goes to showdown, but you will not be prompted to show if everyone folds to you (after you raise for example)

No I assumed that it meant don't show me the cards of the person that won the hand, anyway I have checked that as well now so I will see what happens (or doesn't happen!), thanks

#23 28th June 2011, 6:07 AM

I will 'show' in tournaments occassionally but 'it depends'. I'll do it in a number of different situations. (more often with donkeys on the tables... never when playing vs what I consider to be good players & as mentioned > 'for a number of reasons in a handful of different situations')

#24 28th June 2011, 10:58 AM

I never show my cards, don´t want to give out any information

#25 28th June 2011, 8:11 PM

i went thru a stretch where if i was running good in a cash game, i would show that i had it to help create the illusion that i was just carding really well
it was fun, playing aggressively, showing cards, winning
but, overall, i absolutely agree that if u r showing for any other reason than "for fun" or as a very occasional courtesy to another player u respect, then it is probably a bad move long term

#26 29th June 2011, 11:03 PM

Auto-muck always. One less thing for your opponent to read. If you don't have to show, best to keep your opponents guessing. Showing enough hands will make it easier for better players to read you. They don't need to know what you have. I feel the same about saying what you had at all, even if you've folded at any level. I get mad when I have to show when I'm in a showdown, even if I have the winning hand. Any hand in which your opponents know what you have or had will give experienced players something to work with.

#27 29th June 2011, 11:07 PM

I will show occasionally in private games or when I feel it was a "good hand". I also will occasionally show in free-rolls and in smaller buy-in tourneys if somebody gets a bad beat on me simply to show that I had a solid hand and not that I was chasing a rabbit or something. (Extreme example: Straight flush V. Royal flush. Again, extreme example.)

#28 29th June 2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gefishy

I will show occasionally in private games or when I feel it was a "good hand". I also will occasionally show in free-rolls and in smaller buy-in tourneys if somebody gets a bad beat on me simply to show that I had a solid hand and not that I was chasing a rabbit or something. (Extreme example: Straight flush V. Royal flush. Again, extreme example.)

I'm not sure there is a reason to show at all. Seems like showing your bad beat is more to save your ego rather than to prove anything. It might be more of an advantage to let your opponent think you were in with rags.

Why is it that there are players out there that feel like they have to prove to their table that they know how to play well. Better that they think you are a donk and catch them with their pants down. If people think you're intimidating the pots get smaller whenever you are in and you'll find it tougher to take down monster pots

#29 2nd July 2011, 10:25 AM

Auto muck all the way. Never confirm anything for your opponents if you don't have to.

#30 2nd July 2011, 4:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bettsjc

I'm not sure there is a reason to show at all.

Not even if everybody folds around to you on the BB and you had AA?

#31 2nd July 2011, 4:15 PM

Not even.

#32 2nd July 2011, 4:19 PM

How can it do you any harm to let people know that you had AA when everybody has folded?

#33 2nd July 2011, 4:29 PM

Because it slows the game down because you don't have auto muck enabled? There's no benefit to showing everyone that you got a walk with aces, really.

#34 2nd July 2011, 4:49 PM

Auto-muck is always on in a public game, but for our private tourneys I will sometimes turn it off. Mainly cuz we all need to see the Royals now and then, and I get so damn many..........

#35 6th July 2011, 3:49 PM

i always auto muck. If I decide to show it is easy to switch off before i act. I am usually on several tables and auto makes it easier.

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